abyssal bloorager size issues


Rules Questions


If a abyssal bloodrager casts monstrous physique 2 to become a large sized creature then proceeds to blood rage with demonic bulk would he become a huge sized creature?

Dark Archive

Yes, he would become a Huge sized creature but also remember that size bonuses dont stack but the penalties do. So this might not be as useful as you might think.

As Ascalaphus mentions below, no this would not work.

Dark Archive

They don't stack, but you'd get the bonuses for being Huge sized, instead of being Large x2?

Sovereign Court

From the PRD/CRB, magic chapter:

Quote:
You can only be affected by one polymorph spell at a time. If a new polymorph spell is cast on you (or you activate a polymorph effect, such as wild shape), you can decide whether or not to allow it to affect you, taking the place of the old spell. In addition, other spells that change your size have no effect on you while you are under the effects of a polymorph spell.

Dark Archive

Enlarge Person gives a definite +2 Str regardless of what size you are ending up at. That would not stack with Monstrous Physique II's +4. The end result of these two would be +4 Strength -4 Dex, -2 Hit, +2 CMB, +2 CMD, -2 AC, +4 Nat AC and of course Huge size which comes with reach benefits. So it's not bad but might not be worth the 2 Standard actions to cast them both.

Ignore me I was wrong lol

Dark Archive

Ascalaphus wrote:

From the PRD/CRB, magic chapter:

Quote:
You can only be affected by one polymorph spell at a time. If a new polymorph spell is cast on you (or you activate a polymorph effect, such as wild shape), you can decide whether or not to allow it to affect you, taking the place of the old spell. In addition, other spells that change your size have no effect on you while you are under the effects of a polymorph spell.

Ah interesting I was not aware of that. Well forget what I said then lol.

Sovereign Court

It's kinda obscure. Polymorph effects have lots of these little rules.


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So a supernatural ability is still counted "as a spell" ?

Sovereign Court

Well, it works "as enlarge person", and you can't combine enlarge person with polymorph spells.


So if i became a Minotaur with monsterous physique 2
I wouldn't be able to use demonic bulk? How sad

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