| Rerednaw |
Thinking about Tengu but open to any race.
I was debating on either. Both choices work fairly well but I was wondering how they fare once mid to upper PFS levels arrive.
Anyone with experience with either?
Also feel free to suggest any changes with the builds.
Basics:
Monk
Tengu
Zen Archer.
Going with vanilla build. Something like:
Stat array
st14dx12(14)cn14(12)in10ws15(17)ch10
cs05 02 05 00 07 00
[spoiler=zen level progression]
01-Improved Init
H1-Toughness(deleted if not human)
M1-Precise Shot(2 flurry attacks -1/-1)
M2-PBS
M2-Weapon Focus(Zen)
M3-PBM(Zen)-USE WISDOM FOR ATK ROLLS.
03-Deadly Aim
05-***OPEN***(HOW ABOUT TOUGHNESS IF NON-HUMAN)
M6-Improved Precise Shot (3 flurry attacks +4/+4/-1)
M6-Weapon Specialization(Zen)
07-***OPEN***
08-4 flurry attacks(+6/+6/+1/+1)
09-Clustered Shots(PBS, PS, BAB+6)
M9-Reflexive Shots(monk ability, like Snap Shot)
M10-Improved Critical
11-?
11-5 flurry attacks(+9/+9/+4/+4/-1)
War Priest
Human
Desna
Blessings: Good, Liberation
Stat array
st14dx15cn14in10ws13ch10
race +2
cs05 07 05 00 03 00
01 WF: Bow, PBS (Precise if human), Minor Blessings (+1d6 vs. evil and good align weapon, freedom of movement)
02 Fervor 1/2L +Wis (heal self swift, other std) or SWIFT cast prepped spell.
03 Rapid Shot if human, (Precise Shot, one feat behind if non-human)
04 Channel Energy, Sacred Wpn+1
05 Fervor 2d6, Deadly Aim
06 Bonus feat (Weapon Spec?)
07 Sacred Armor+1
08 Fervor 3d6, Sacred Wpn+2
09 Bonus Feat (Manyshot), Feat(???)
10 Major Blessings. (Freedom's Shout, SM IV-good or celestial only)
11 Fervor 4d6, Feat(???)
12 Bonus Feat(???), Sacred Wpn+3
Both seem pretty solid and are open to changes.
Monk pros: perception as a class skill, better saves, free point blank master and unarmed strike.
War Priest pros: Swift spell casting, divine spell list goodness, swift spell casting, swift self-healing, swift spell casting, armor proficiency, swift spell casting, spontaneous cures, swift spell casting, swift weapon/armor enchants...and oh yeah did I mention swift spell casting? :D
Opinions, changes, advice wanted and welcome.
| Undone |
A sacred fist is significantly stronger in the long run. Although I must say it is a long run.
Why?
Well you can't rapid shot while flurrying as a ZA because it says so. Crusader's flurry Erastil let's you get a long bow but also fire ki shots and such.
You must be human and your progression sucks for feats.
H: Weapon Focus
1: Point blank shot
3: Precise shot
5: Crusaders flurry
7: Rapid shot
9: Many shot
11: Deadly Aim
But the potential in the long run is higher.
At level 9 you're really far ahead though since you'll have Rapid shot, many shot, channel vigor, and ki to give you +4 attacks in addition to the 4 attacks you get from flurry. It's pretty much the strongest sacred fist build but it's really rough to tough out the earlier levels and you more or less MUST be human.