The definition of a newly created character?


Pathfinder Society

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I just received a chronicle with which I may give a bonus trait for a newly created character.

Specifically it says:

Quote:


-spoiler-. You may designate one newly created PC under your Pathfinder Society number -spoiler-. This additional training grants that PC one -spoiler- bonus trait. You must include a copy of this chronicle sheet with a new PC's records, though that PC gains no additional boons, equipment, or wealth from this Chronicle Sheet.

So, what is the definition of a newly created character, as per written. Does it mean:

a) a character with 0 XP, 0 PP/Fame, and 0 chronicle sheets?
b) a character who may have recently completed his or her first scenario or module and thus already may have one chronicle sheet before getting this boon?
or c) both of the above apply.

Spoiler: Scenario in question (at one's own risk):

Pathfinder Society Scenario # 5-99 - The Paths We Choose
New Recruits wrote:


Your faction's success enables it to recruit and train new members. You may designate one newly created PC under your Pathfinder Society number who shares your faction as a new recruit. This additional training grants that PC one of the faction's traits as a bonus trait, though the PC cannot have more than one faction trait. You must include a copy of this Chronicle sheet with the new PC's records, though that PC gains no additional boons, equipment, or wealth from this Chronicle sheet.

Liberty's Edge 4/5 5/5

I believe it is A.

Grand Lodge 2/5

Also an unbuilt character that can have any amount of xp via GM credit would apply.

Sczarni 4/5

'Newly created' boons have generally meant that they have 0 player XP, they may have GM xp, but as long as they have never actually been played, they are 'newly created' Thus how GMs can start a boon race character at level 2+ if they have a character with enough credits.


What about if you had multiple boons of the style posted above from different scenarios you played. Could you apply them all to the same newly generated character?

Shadow Lodge 4/5

This was asked previously re: boon race+protege and the answer was "yes.

Protege is a high tier boon thing nobody is supposed to know about. It is very secret, yes.

Dark Archive 3/5

Pathfinder Maps, Pathfinder Accessories Subscriber; Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Superscriber; Starfinder Charter Superscriber

With regards to a "GM credit baby", here's my question:

Said credit baby had never been played, but has chronicles from July. You get the protege (or similar) boon now, in October, after the valid races have changed. Can you...

a) create an aasimar with the protege boon without needing a race boon?
b) create a nagaji (*) with the protege boon without needing a race boon?
c) none of the above

(*) assuming nagaji doesn't need a race boon in season 6. PFS leadership has said they don't need one, but Additional Resources says otherwise.

Grand Lodge 4/5 **** Venture-Captain, California—Sacramento

Aasimar must have been played as an aasimar prior to the deadline.

Silver Crusade 4/5

Fearspect wrote:
What about if you had multiple boons of the style posted above from different scenarios you played. Could you apply them all to the same newly generated character?

Yes, as confirmed by Mike Brock years ago. That takes me back - those boons ended up being my nagaji battle oracle, who has since gone from Lantern Lodge to Andoran to Liberty's Edge, and he's still only level 5. LOL

Sparky Spain wrote:

With regards to a "GM credit baby", here's my question:

Said credit baby had never been played, but has chronicles from July. You get the protege (or similar) boon now, in October, after the valid races have changed. Can you...

a) create an aasimar with the protege boon without needing a race boon?
b) create a nagaji (*) with the protege boon without needing a race boon?
c) none of the above

(*) assuming nagaji doesn't need a race boon in season 6. PFS leadership has said they don't need one, but Additional Resources says otherwise.

PFS management has made it clear that only PCs played or designated on a GM credit to be aasimar or tiefling before the cutoff are grandfathered in. You can't rebuild another PC into one of those races if it wasn't already a member of those races before the deadline in mid-August.

Per the Guide to Organized Play, you can make a nagaji without a boon now. Additional Resources is always a little behind on getting updated, so treat the Guide as king.

Dark Archive 4/5 *

Pathfinder Rulebook Subscriber
FLite wrote:
Aasimar must have been played as an aasimar prior to the deadline.

Aasimar or Tiefling could also be locked in with GM credit, as mine was.

So, in my case, the character I want to apply this to has not been played yet, but has 2 XP from GM credit as an Aasimar and has a trait from the Season 5 Andoran trait list that is not on the Liberty's Edge list. Is this a valid target for the boon?

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How does that boon work if your faction didn't make it into season 6?

Shadow Lodge 3/5

I think anytime you can use level 1 retraining also qualifies as "newly created".

Grand Lodge 4/5

DrakeRoberts wrote:
How does that boon work if your faction didn't make it into season 6?

It uses the new factions, so whatever your character is now.

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Avatar-1 wrote:
I think anytime you can use level 1 retraining also qualifies as "newly created".

This is what got me thinking about it in the first place.

Built-in level 1 retraining lets us practically re-create the said character until we play it for the first time at level 2. SO, technically, if I rebuilt my character who got straight from 0 xp to 3 xp from a module, would that not be newly created character?

I'm aware this might be slightly pedantic; technically all that a character - PFS-wise - needs to be a character is to have "active" Society number for that character. That being said, as much as I'd like to believe that said 0 to 3 xp "Fresh Toon" would be newly created, actually having been played by myself in a module makes it otherwise, even if I rebuilt it from scratch afterwards. It would still be that same character numbered as XXXX-YY.

then again...

The boon mentioned in my OP, on the other hand, lacks the thing that most other similar boons have: it doesn't state that the copy of the said chronicle would have to be the first chronicle sheet or among his or her first chronicle sheets before adding any further chronicles. In a way, the character still is newly created, albeit having been played once already (just once, mind you!)

I can totally understand the both possible ways to interpret this, but there can only be one correct interpretation. Which one, that is the main question.

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I think the rebuild is OK as a 'new character.' The race boons do say it must be first, and that is how it was handled. Especially if you are not trying to be a jerk or to really game the system (which I do not think an extra trait does--I could be wrong). At my table, until clarified otherwise, I will rule that way.

Grand Lodge 4/5

DrakeRoberts wrote:
How does that boon work if your faction didn't make it into season 6?

Spoiler:
It uses the faction reported on the Chronicle for the character who played the scenario. Since I believe it debuted at GenCon, the game must have occurred after August 14, so that would have to be one of the current factions and grant one of the current faction traits.
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Starglim wrote:
DrakeRoberts wrote:
How does that boon work if your faction didn't make it into season 6?
** spoiler omitted **

We used our old factions for it.

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DrakeRoberts wrote:
Starglim wrote:
DrakeRoberts wrote:
How does that boon work if your faction didn't make it into season 6?
** spoiler omitted **
We used our old factions for it.

AFAIK, you should've used the new factions. The scenario happens to tell the story of how and why the old factions are reforming to what they are now, so it's only appropriate to use the new ones from that point forward.

If you didn't, well, then it should be the faction to which your character chose for his or her new faction after the scenario.

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