How on earth haha, what a silly rule. I love Paizo but Paizo doesn't love dexterity users. Sad birds everywhere - tengu claws are the size of short swords. Lol'able indeed.
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Please don't say that a light weapon is not a one handed weapon. That argument is just idiotic imho, as it implies that light weapons require NO hands.
No, it implies you've read the Core Rulebook at some point:
Light, One-Handed, and Two-Handed Melee Weapons: This designation is a measure of how much effort it takes to wield a weapon in combat. It indicates whether a melee weapon, when wielded by a character of the weapon's size category, is considered a light weapon, a one-handed weapon, or a two-handed weapon.
Please don't call people idiots, especially the people who actually did the homework.
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For what its worth, Short Swords are not a choice for Slashing Grace either.Just curious, what is your reasoning behind the statement. Please don't say that a light weapon is not a one handed weapon. That argument is just idiotic imho, as it implies that light weapons require NO hands. When it just denotes weapons you may use Dex with (via Weapon Finesse) and weapons you may use in a grapple.
Light Weapons and One-Handed Weapons are specifically defined weapon groups in Pathfinder. Thus, while all one-handed weapons can be wielded in one hand, not all weapons you can wielded in one hand are one-handed weapons. It's the difference between a specific defined term and generally defined term.
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For what its worth, Short Swords are not a choice for Slashing Grace either.Just curious, what is your reasoning behind the statement. Please don't say that a light weapon is not a one handed weapon. That argument is just idiotic imho, as it implies that light weapons require NO hands. When it just denotes weapons you may use Dex with (via Weapon Finesse) and weapons you may use in a grapple.
The reason is short swords are piercing not slashing so it doesn't matter if it's light or one handed.
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For what its worth, Short Swords are not a choice for Slashing Grace either.Just curious, what is your reasoning behind the statement. Please don't say that a light weapon is not a one handed weapon. That argument is just idiotic imho, as it implies that light weapons require NO hands. When it just denotes weapons you may use Dex with (via Weapon Finesse) and weapons you may use in a grapple.
As pointed out by Dread Knight, a Short Sword is a piercing weapon, not slashing, and thus is not eligible for slashing grace.
Additionally, as pointed out by Jiggy, One-Handed Weapon is a specifically defined term in the core rule book. If Slashing Grace was referring to a weapon that can be used in one hand it would say such, and most importantly it wouldn't include the line "The weapon must be one appropriate for your size."
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Actually, if you read my statement, I call the argument idiotic. If you want to stand by the argument, that is your choice. I have made my view on the argument clear, I am not interested in people who take offense because I view a line of reasoning a way that differs from theirs.
I find it rather odd that you would find following RAW to be idiotic. One-Handed Weapons have a specific definition by RAW. The fact you have chosen to use a non-RAW definition for a RAW argument says more about your argument then it does theirs. As does the fact that you choose to dismiss all counter arguments by labeling them as idiotic rather than supporting your own arguments with logic and reason.
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Actually, if you read my statement, I call the argument idiotic. If you want to stand by the argument, that is your choice. I have made my view on the argument clear, I am not interested in people who take offense because I view a line of reasoning a way that differs from theirs.Please don't say that a light weapon is not a one handed weapon. That argument is just idiotic imho, as it implies that light weapons require NO hands.No, it implies you've read the Core Rulebook at some point:
Light, One-Handed, and Two-Handed Melee Weapons: This designation is a measure of how much effort it takes to wield a weapon in combat. It indicates whether a melee weapon, when wielded by a character of the weapon's size category, is considered a light weapon, a one-handed weapon, or a two-handed weapon.Please don't call people idiots, especially the people who actually did the homework.
Okay, so it's not that you're calling people who read the Core Rulebook idiots, it's that you call the act of reading the Core Rulebook idiotic. I agree with the general mantra of "attack the issue, not the person", but I'm skeptical of the implication that that's what you were doing with your comment.
In any case, you're welcome to continue believing that understanding Core rules is idiotic if you like, as that is—as you put it—your choice.
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I have an easy solution.
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/path-of-war/feats#TOC-Deadly-Agility-Combat-
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To be honest, I'm confused how lager creatures can have any kind of natural attacks. Except possibly for being delicious.I can see the controversy fermenting already.
I can barley wait.
For what its worth, Short Swords are not a choice for Slashing Grace either.Just curious, what is your reasoning behind the statement. Please don't say that a light weapon is not a one handed weapon.
A Light weapon is not a one-handed weapon. See the equipment charts? Separate categories. Using two hands on a one-handed weapon does not change it into a two-handed weapon, either.
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Why would/should it work on piercing weapons? It's called SLASHING Grace, not PIERCING Grace.
Which would be fine if it were actually published by Paizo and were a PFS legal source.I have an easy solution.
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/path-of-war/feats#TOC-Deadly-Agility-Combat-
I see no reference to PFS playing any part in this discussion, and who freaking cares who published it?
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I see no reference to PFS playing any part in this discussion, and who freaking cares who published it?Which would be fine if it were actually published by Paizo and were a PFS legal source.I have an easy solution.
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/path-of-war/feats#TOC-Deadly-Agility-Combat-
This thread was moved from the PFS general discussion.
I love Paizo but Paizo doesn't love dexterity users.If you can find me a feat tree or set of magic items that lets you use your Strength for your AC and/or Reflex saves I might buy this argument.
Strong people can wear heavy armor. Feat chain available in PHB 1, first printing through present. Hope that helps.
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A medium creature's natural weapons should be medium.
A medium creature's natural weapons are medium.
That doesn't keep them from being light.
A medium sized dagger is light too.
A small sized longsword isn't light, despite being small.
Small/medium/large & light/one-handed/two-handed are two entirely seperate categories of qualification.
You're stuck in how 3.5 did weapons. Its been tweaked.
Why should the mere mortals get to use the stat they want?
Meanwhile orc witches can cast with con...
Well there's your problem. Stop comparing NPC classes and PC classes.Why should the mere mortals get to use the stat they want?
Meanwhile orc witches can cast with con...
You think Witches are a NPC class? Or do you think Scarred-Witch Doctors are a NPC class? Either way you mistaken as both as I assure you, PC classes.
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You think Witches are a NPC class? Or do you think Scarred-Witch Doctors are a NPC class? Either way you mistaken as both as I assure you, PC classes.Well there's your problem. Stop comparing NPC classes and PC classes.Why should the mere mortals get to use the stat they want?
Meanwhile orc witches can cast with con...
I have an Orc Scarred Witch Doctor in a non-PFS campaign. They are quite powerful, but not without their downside as I am now the master of all constitution-based skills.
Fret not! Spells can replace many skills anyway and usually do it better. Why put ranks in Climb, when you can Spider Climb? You are out of luck on Aram Zey's Focus though. Tough break. Maybe get a wand of it?