So, this might be an odd question.
Ventriloquism has a verbal component.
Huh?
I mean, I get that the end result is a magically "thrown" voice. But the whole point of actual ventriloquism is that the ventriloquist's lips don't appear to move. So, if you're seen using a verbal component, then the jig is kind of up, right? Unless it's meant that the verbal component refers to the sound produced, which also wouldn't make sense.
How is this supposed to work? Can the caster fold her arms and/or drink a glass of water while the voices are coming from somewhere else?
Also, can you apply Silent Spell to this one?
If you are trying to pull this off I think you would need a performance coupled with a bluff check?
Also there is the Spellsong feat that kinda matches what you are going for? Its for bards.
Huh? You realize I'm talking about the spell, right?
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Huh? You realize I'm talking about the spell, right?If you are trying to pull this off I think you would need a performance coupled with a bluff check?
Also there is the Spellsong feat that kinda matches what you are going for? Its for bards.
Faceplam... sorry I thought you meant ventriloquism as in the act of throwing your voice.
Ok... basing on the spell, I would say your CASTing of the spell can have Silent Spell applied to it. But the actual use of the spell would require you to say something to throw your voice around.
Silent Spell only affects the casting of the spell, not its effects. A Silent Lightning Bolt is not going to be silent, just the cast of it is. the lightning bolt itself is still going to make some noise.
Hence the same for a Silenced Ventriloquism.
Huh? You realize I'm talking about the spell, right?If you are trying to pull this off I think you would need a performance coupled with a bluff check?
Also there is the Spellsong feat that kinda matches what you are going for? Its for bards.
Faceplam... sorry I thought you meant ventriloquism as in the act of throwing your voice.
Ok... basing on the spell, I would say your CASTing of the spell can have Silent Spell applied to it. But the actual use of the spell would require you to say something to throw your voice around.
Silent Spell only affects the casting of the spell, not its effects. A Silent Lightning Bolt is not going to be silent, just the cast of it is. the lightning bolt itself is still going to make some noise.
Hence the same for a Silenced Ventriloquism.
Never faceplam from a simple misunderstanding. Also, I didn't specifically mention "Spell" in my subject or OP.
Webster's defines Ventriloquism as "the production of the voice in such a way that the sound seems to come from a source other than the vocal organs of the speaker".
So logically, a caster who is, say captured, should be able to cast Ventriloquism (while the bad guys are distracted), and then make sounds (that the caster can normally make) that appear to come from somewhere else - while the baddies are staring right at the caster. Whose lips aren't moving (like a... Ventriloquist?)
Right?
This way, you can make it sound like members of your party (or a Paladin, or a hungry cyclops, if you have the skills to make such a noise) around the corner, and buff with a bluff ("I'd be poopin' my pants if I was you, goblins!")
Otherwise it doesn't seem like it's much good for anything. It would be less useful than ghost sound, except for duration and the fact that Ghost Sound can't create specific words.
This is my interpretation. I thought I'd bring it here for a second opinion.