Iron Priest channel energy confusion


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I love the Iron Priest archetype for the cleric in the Technology guide. The only confusing part is the channel energy; does channel positive or negative heal them? Arguments could be made for either side, but the entry is not clear. On the channel positive side, it would make sense that a cleric of Brigh (the Clockwork Lady) would make sense. The flip side would be, if the Iron Priest treats constructs as undead (because they have no power over them) channel positive to harm would make sense. Does anyone have any insight on this?


This ability expands the regular channel energy so constructs with clockwork or robot subtype are affected in the same way as living creatures. It does not determine your channel energy ability.

- if you you are cleric who channels positive energy and you use channel energy to heal living creatures, clockwork/robot constructs are healed. When you channel positive energy to harm undead, there is no effect on constructs.

- if you are cleric who channels negative energy and you use channel energy to harm living creatures, clockwork/robot constructs are harmed. Channeling energy to heal undead has no effect on constructs.


Is this your interpretation, Drejk, or was there official word on this from Paizo. This to me seems like another RAW/RAI discussion. I ask because I'm making an Iron Priest for a PbP campaign.

Grand Lodge

It is right there in the description, very clear.

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When an iron priest channels energy to heal or harm living creatures, she heals or harms constructs with the clockwork or robot subtypes as well. Constructs without those subtypes are also affected, but gain only half the normal amount of healing or take only half the normal amount of damage, as appropriate.

So if they are channeling to effect Undead it has no effect.


Pathfinder Rulebook Subscriber

It actually doesn't specify how it affects undead, but it was clarified on the TG product page that the Iron Priest's channel should not affect undead in any way.


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RJGrady wrote:
It actually doesn't specify how it affects undead, but it was clarified on the TG product page that the Iron Priest's channel should not affect undead in any way.

well, that can't be right! If it doesn't mention channeling to affect undead (which it doesn't) then channeling to affect undead is RAW unchanged. So if you channel energy to affect undead it should affect them normally.


Pathfinder Adventure Path Subscriber
Iron Priest wrote:
Channel Energy (Su): When an iron priest channels energy to heal or harm living creatures, she heals or harms constructs with the clockwork or robot subtypes as well. Constructs without those subtypes are also affected, but gain only half the normal amount of healing or take only half the normal amount of damage, as appropriate. This ability alters channel energy.

It seems to me the dual function of channel is completely taken away.

You either heal or harm living creatures and constructs with the clockwork or robot subtype.

Just for clarification, i ask that question in the product thread, because i asked myself the same.
One would expect it to replace undead with constructs, but then i think it is a NPC class, written for that AP, where you are opposed to the iron gods. So for their priests this would probably make sense like it i said above.


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I'm afraid I can't see how you reach the conclusion that the dual function is taken away.

Whether you channel positive or negative energy it has two modes. This is a fundamental aspect of channel energy. This ability specifically only affects one mode. It would need some express wording to remove the second mode, wording which it does not have.

Your Iron priest when he channels to heal or harm undead still heals or harms undead. What he doesn't do is have any effect on constructs (in exactly the same way as anyone else with the channel energy ability) when he does so.

Whether it was RAI that Iron Priest could only channel to affect living I have no idea, but that is not RAW.


Pathfinder Rulebook Subscriber

dragonhunterq is correct per RAW, but because that seemed strange, I asked.

JJ says the Iron Priest's channel energy cannot hurt or harm undea

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