Mystic Theurge level 3 shenanigans, do they work?


Rules Questions


1. Take one level sorcerer, one level oracle
2. Have magical lineage for a level 1 spell both classes share
3. Have necessary skill points via 12 int or some other method
4. Take heighten spell, you can now heighten the level one magical lineage spell to level 2 using a level 1 slot
5. Take mystic theurge levels

Does this work? I would like to know because it would be awesome for a character I am making...

The Exchange

Heighten and magical lineage do not work together.

Also you need 3 ranks in the skills so at the earliest you can take MT is your 4th level.

I think the early access can come from spell like abilities, but I'm not a fan of that or well informed on it.


No dont think it does. However depending on your race you can do it other ways.


Is there a way to raise the faerie fire spell-like that half-elves can gain maybe?


What race would I need to play to get into MT early like this?


There are lots of threads on it. Aasimar is usually the one.


Hazrond wrote:
Is there a way to raise the faerie fire spell-like that half-elves can gain maybe?

I don't believe that heightened spells count as their new level for prerequisite purposes, and you can't raise the spell level of a spell-like ability anyway.

There's a good guide to early entry in general available on-line. I'd check it out.

Scarab Sages

A human with racial heritage drow and the drow feat Spider Step qualifies for the 2nd level arcane.

Aasimar, drow, half-elf, tieflings, duergar, and svirfneblins all have ways to qualify for 2nd level arcane.

For 2nd level divine, you're looking at being a wood oracle with wood shape, or picking up the trickery domain or fate inquisition. Aasimar can also grab a feat for it.

With a wisdom of 13, and the right god, you can use believer's boon to gain access to the trickery domain's copycat ability.

That way, you can enter with any combination of arcane/divine classes you like.

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