can a blodoodrager with the abyssal bloodline enter the dragon disciple prestige class?


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It looks like they could but I'm not sure?
Strait classed bloodrager only.


Raw it seems yes. Rai, however, I think it's not the intended way for a bloodrager.

Some argument could be that as hybrid class, with sorcerer as root, it should fulfill the sorcerer requirement.


The reason i ask is if the dd requires the dragon bloodline for the blood rager.
If so i guess I'll take the crossblooded archtype. I'm hoping not though.


As the rules sit now, no. But if you were to be a sorcerer bloodrager multiclass you are required to have the same bloodlines for both. I think eventually the rules are going to be clarified that bloodrager bloodline is advanced by Dragon Disciple (it currently is not) and that the bloodline must be Draconic.

Grand Lodge

No, because the Dragon Disciple gives the Draconic Bloodline to those without Sorcerer levels and Bloodragers can't take levels in a class that grants a different bloodline then what they have.


ACG pdf pg8 wrote:

Parent Classes: Each one of the following classes lists two

classes that it draws upon to form the basis of its theme.
While a character can multiclass with these parent classes,
this usually results in redundant abilities. Such abilities
don’t stack unless specified. If a class feature allows the
character to make a one-time choice (such as a bloodline),
that choice must match similar choices made by the parent
classes and vice-versa (such as selecting the same bloodline).
PRD wrote:
Spellcasting: Ability to cast 1st-level arcane spells without preparation. If the character has sorcerer levels, he must have the draconic bloodline. If the character gains levels of sorcerer after taking this class, he must take the draconic bloodline.

Seems to me it would need to be a draconic and/or crossblooded bloodrager.

Dark Archive

It's a bit more complicated than that though, isn't it? Does a draconic bloodrager have his bloodline advanced through dragon disciple? If not, they're obviously not the same bloodline. If the bloodrager has no way of manifesting the sorcerer draconic bloodline, then there should be no requirement as to the bloodrager's choice.


Yes, as you do not have sorcerer levels. (Assuming you fulfill all the other prerequisites.)

Just realize that Blood of Dragons grants you powers as a 1st level sorcerer up to 10th level, not stacking with your bloodrager bloodline.

The bloodrager clause about other classes granting a bloodline doesn't matter here, as blood of dragons only grants bloodline powers rather than the bloodline class feature. (A similar distinction to eldritch heritage vs. actual sorcerer levels.)

Grand Lodge

The Bloodlines are Separate, but the Bloodrager restricts your bloodline to the same one as your Bloodrager Bloodline. A Multiclassed Sorcerer / Bloodrager must pick the same bloodline for both. The levels do not stack, they are different abilities.


So if i am a crossblooded bloodrager abyssal/dragonic
Would i be considered having the sorcerer bloodline abyssal/dragonic when i got to first level in dragon disciple thus going up in both like a crossblooded sorcerer would?


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fel_horfrost wrote:

So if i am a crossblooded bloodrager abyssal/dragonic

Would i be considered having the sorcerer bloodline abyssal/dragonic when i got to first level in dragon disciple thus going up in both like a crossblooded sorcerer would?

That is one of the major things people are unsure of. Many of us think it will be eventually ruled yes. But that isn't certain.


Man that's a lot of rounds of claws a day lol.


I dunno. Crossblooded is a a sorcerer archetype and not an actual bloodline, just an archetype that lets u select TWO bloodlines at same time. Bloodrager though specifically states u select ONE bloodline.


It's also a bloodrager archtype And if you're going to turn into a dragon why not be a BIG RAGING DRAGON i.e. abyssal bloat ;)

Shadow Lodge

Not sure its relevant, but IIRC PFS ruled that crossblooded Draconic Sorcerers could enter the Dragon Disciple PrC.

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