Shillelagh + Metamagic Dazing Spell

[Stephen Ede]

The Shillelagh spell turn a club into a magical weapon which does increased damage due to the spell.
Dazing Spell metamagic cause anyone damaged by the spell to be dazed unless they make a save.

Is been hit by the Shillelagh count as been damaged by the spell?

i.e. If a Druid cast's a Dazing Shillelagh does hitting someone with it cause the Dazing effect to activate?

Shillelagh

Spoiler:

Shillelagh
School transmutation; Level druid 1

CASTING
Casting Time 1 standard action
Components V, S, DF

EFFECT
Range touch
Target one touched non-magical oak club or quarterstaff
Duration 1 min./level
Saving Throw Will negates (object); Spell Resistance yes (object)

DESCRIPTION
Your own non-magical club or quarterstaff becomes a weapon with a +1 enhancement bonus on attack and damage rolls. A quarterstaff gains this enhancement for both ends of the weapon. It deals damage as if it were two size categories larger (a Small club or quarterstaff so transmuted deals 1d8 points of damage, a Medium 2d6, and a Large 3d6), +1 for its enhancement bonus. These effects only occur when the weapon is wielded by you. If you do not wield it, the weapon behaves as if unaffected by this spell.

Metamagi - Dazing Spell

Spoiler:

Dazing Spell (Metamagic)
You can daze creatures with the power of your spells.

Benefit: You can modify a spell to daze a creature damaged by the spell. When a creature takes damage from this spell, they become dazed for a number of rounds equal to the original level of the spell. If the spell allows a saving throw, a successful save negates the daze effect. If the spell does not allow a save, the target can make a Will save to negate the daze effect. If the spell effect also causes the creature to become dazed, the duration of this metamagic effect is added to the duration of the spell.

Level Increase: +3 (a dazing spell uses up a spell slot three levels higher than the spell’s actual level.

Spells that do not inflict damage do not benefit from this feat.

[Ravingdork]

I would say no, they don't work together. They are being damaged by the cudgel, not by the spell directly.

Dazing spell would work on things like fireballs, wall of fire, etc.

[Onyxlion]

I would say it works with such spells like flame blade, river whip, and whip of X spells though. In fact a dazing river whip is no save no dr dazing, no save versus the spell itself so it defaults to the daze save.

[Claxon]

No they don't work together. Shillelagh just enhances the damage of a club, it doesn't deal damage on it's own. So no, not at all.

@Onyxlion, that doesn't work either.

Quote:

Dazing Spell (Metamagic)

You can daze creatures with the power of your spells.

Benefit: You can modify a spell to daze a creature damaged by the spell. When a creature takes damage from this spell, they become dazed for a number of rounds equal to the original level of the spell. If the spell allows a saving throw, a successful save negates the daze effect. If the spell does not allow a save, the target can make a Will save to negate the daze effect. If the spell effect also causes the creature to become dazed, the duration of this metamagic effect is added to the duration of the spell.

If a spell doesn't allow a save, the dazing effect gains a will save on it.

Edit: Just noticed that you either edited your statement or I stopped reading before I finished the sentence. I'm guessing the later, but I'm leaving my post as is to reiterate the point that spells without a save still give a save against the Dazing effect.

[Stephen Ede]

Thanks, I suspected as much.

Oh well, still Flame Blade is fine.

[Onyxlion]

Yeah I new dazing had a save I mainly meant the spell was no sr no save on a touch attack. Not many no sr spells so I felt river whip should be mentioned.

Edit: My original statement wasn't as clear as I intended.

[Stephen Ede]

And on a related topic -
Persistent Spell and Dazing Spell onm a Flame Blade.

The Spell itself doesn't normally require a save but the Daze has a save. Does the Persistent Spell require a target taking damage from the Flame Blade to make 2 successful saves to avoid been dazed?

Basically playing around with Spell Perfection on Flame Blade and Shillelagh and seeing what might work and be worth having.