SHould be fun playing gnomes, dwarves and halflings there!
From what I heard at an AP panel at Gencon, this is also going to be an artifact-heavy AP. That excites me more than anything else.
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Giantslayer begins in Belkzen, and Belkzen, Hold of the Orc Hordes is scheduled to come out in December. Not exactly "hand in hand," but definitely related.
In addition, on the Player Companion side, Giant Hunter's Handbook is also scheduled for December. It might have something to do with Giantslayer, as well. :)
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I think the people most excited by this one are those that remember the first third of the GDQ series from TSR back in the day. Giantslayer's definitely a love letter to the Against the Giants series, so much so that they've mentioned hill, frost and fire giants in particular.
It doesn't excite me nearly as much as their most recent love letter (Iron Gods to S3), but the mention that an orb of dragonkind will be surfacing intrigues me. Here's hoping for a fire giant riding a huge red dragon!
SHould be fun playing gnomes, dwarves and halflings there!
Dwarves are by far my favorite race to play... As I tend to DM more than play these days, might give me a great chance to break out my dwarf ranger...
My players have also been wanting to play an all-dwarf party... albeit with my dwarven subraces rather than the core dwarf.
What I wouldn't give to play her through this AP though. Speaking of which, I should get back to working on that ranger archetype for her...
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Yes, Misroi - I like that it is a love letter to the Against the Giants series from 1st Edition. (Also Iron Gods to S3). I hope that we get some more of these homage APs in the futurte. Not an overwhelming amount but I like the nostalgic feeling of them.
I look forward to other "love letters."
white plume mountain?
*faint*
Starting out in Belkzen. Gonna have some fun running a half orc through this.Still flipping between bloodrager and warpriest, though.
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Starting out in Belkzen. Gonna have some fun running a half orc through this.Still flipping between bloodrager and warpriest, though.
half-orc bloodrager with the giant bloodline 0.o
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I'm very much looking forward to the Battle of Bloodmarch Hill at the very least. I have been planning to run a campaign out of Trunau for a while now, even before the announcement of Giantslayer or the Belkzen Campaign Setting book. So this has all come together at the perfect time for me. Well, it could be a few months earlier, but I'll TRY to cope.
I'm looking forward to some more on giant cultures. I'd quite like a trip to a cloud giant castle, as well.
I own exactly 3 AP's, Runelords AE, Kingmaker, and Carrion Crown...this may be my 4th.
I have a feeling Dwarf Rangers are going to be super popular.
Yeah, also excited about an AP that uses dragons as a plot device (with the dragon orb). Last time I saw anything featuring multiple dragons at the same time was Age of Worms (Kings of the Rift), and that module remains one of the best I've ever ran.
On a half-orc related note, if I was going to do an all half-orc party, it would be for this AP.
Yeah, also excited about an AP that uses dragons as a plot device (with the dragon orb). Last time I saw anything featuring multiple dragons at the same time was Age of Worms (Kings of the Rift), and that module remains one of the best I've ever ran.
On a half-orc related note, if I was going to do an all half-orc party, it would be for this AP.
+1 to multiple dragons and giants.
an all half orc party… just have a hard time seeing them as the heroes of humanity,more like the advanced agents of the orc invasion….
you know what would be cool tho?
Taking the 'kinslayer' inquisitor archetype from the Dhampir and applying to the half-orc/orcs.
Amusing concept.
Edit: a little disguise and bluff targeting a race or creatures with the worst ability to see through all that, and the entire party could pretend to be orcs and wander around their camp! lol
Starting out in Belkzen. Gonna have some fun running a half orc through this.Still flipping between bloodrager and warpriest, though.half-orc bloodrager with the giant bloodline 0.o
Bloodragers don't get a giant bloodline, as far as I'm aware.
Was leaning towards draconic, in any event. Tie in with the orb plotline.
I'm excited because I can bring out that Giantslaying build ranger I've been itching to bring out for years. Ranger with big bows and big swords, a big T-Rex helping out. Sure, facing down orcs at the early levels, but still! Ranger and T-Rex vs Giants! Come on!
Starting out in Belkzen. Gonna have some fun running a half orc through this.Still flipping between bloodrager and warpriest, though.half-orc bloodrager with the giant bloodline 0.oBloodragers don't get a giant bloodline, as far as I'm aware.
Was leaning towards draconic, in any event. Tie in with the orb plotline.
i just made it up…thought it would be interesting.. hence the weird face 0.o
GM fiat and smudging of rules and I don't see why you can't have giant blooded bloodragers.
GM fiat and smudging of rules and I don't see why you can't have giant blooded bloodragers.
enlarge person in effect while raging…. maybe a bloodline thing, maybe a rage power based on bloodlines?
I personally hate the over use of enlarge person in the game, but where it would fit thematically, it fits!
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I'm looking forward to being in a party where a little 4 foot nothing dwarf eyes a 20 foot tall giant, spits and says "Your people and mine, we both know the dance to come. Shall I lead?"
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I hope that this will be a great AP!
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Now we just need to see homages to "Temple of Elemental Evil" and "Slave Lords" ^^
Suppose a ToEE homage could use a temple to Golarion's favorite imprisoned destruction God... Slave Lords would likely be good for Cheliax, though I'm sure there are other nations out there that utilize widescale slavery that haven't had any modules set in them yet....
all i know is, with my dwarven fighter climbing the Dorn-Derger Death Feat Tree, someone that can repair all the pulverized knees in my wake will do very well for themselves:D
Now we just need to see homages to "Temple of Elemental Evil" and "Slave Lords" ^^
Suppose a ToEE homage could use a temple to Golarion's favorite imprisoned destruction God... Slave Lords would likely be good for Cheliax, though I'm sure there are other nations out there that utilize widescale slavery that haven't had any modules set in them yet....
Katepesh… the slavers should be centered in Katapesh.
Of course "In the dungeons of the slave lords" was challenging because every one was naked and you're trying to fight a roper.
With this rules set? and character classes we have now? Im thinking that would be a lot less of problem. (just think blade bound magus before we even go into things like brawlers and how monks work now)
Meh. Go with a Slayer in that case. Or an Investigator, which doesn't need to flank to get the precise damage bonus. Add in a Skald and you have the melee sorts with a small rage bonus without all of the penalties of Rage.
For myself, in the middle of three APs at the moment, most of my excitement comes from the fleshing out of Belkzen. This is been one of the earliest-mentioned and least-utilized areas in the Inner Sea, and about the only "source" of orcs as well. Easy to overdo, but it's been a very long wait (7 years?).
Hoping and praying for a chaotic neutral female frost giant druid (arctic druid) of Thremyr with the arctic domain. In short, the frost giant version of "she who must be obeyed". ^_~
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Hoping and praying for a chaotic neutral female frost giant druid (arctic druid) of Thremyr with the arctic domain. In short, the frost giant version of "she who must be obeyed". ^_~
can a frost giant druid turns itself into a tiny hummingbird or mouse? because if so, how have they not infiltrated every castle and destroyed them from within? :)
Can a frost giant druid turns itself into a tiny hummingbird or mouse? Because if so, how have they not infiltrated every castle and destroyed them from within? :)
Probably because even a single frost giant druid would have a hard time with all the elite guards, bodyguards, royal mages, high priests, and such that dwell within the castle. I doubt such a female frost giant would take such a risk on her own. Better to lead an army though there's certainly no rule against leading a SUMMONED army now is there (heheh, I love elementals)? ^_~
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I'm looking forward to a combat map covered with fallen giant corpses (minis), the combat isn't over, and telling the players:
"No, you don't have line of sight, that body is in the way."
"Yes, it counts as rough terrain."
"Yes, you can use it as cover."
Oh, and my personal favorite, "Your last hit took it down, now make a Reflex save to avoid falling giant."
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I'm looking forward to a combat map covered with fallen giant corpses (minis), the combat isn't over, and telling the players:
"No, you don't have line of sight, that body is in the way."
"Yes, it counts as rough terrain."
"Yes, you can use it as cover."
Oh, and my personal favorite, "Your last hit took it down, now make a Reflex save to avoid falling giant."
^^This needs to be a thing.^^
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Can a frost giant druid turns itself into a tiny hummingbird or mouse? Because if so, how have they not infiltrated every castle and destroyed them from within? :)Probably because even a single frost giant druid would have a hard time with all the elite guards, bodyguards, royal mages, high priests, and such that dwell within the castle. I doubt such a female frost giant would take such a risk on her own. Better to lead an army though there's certainly no rule against leading a SUMMONED army now is there (heheh, I love elementals)? ^_~
Pretty sure SWAMBO could take 90% of these fools (see below) before wildshaping escape away and come back a few days later... rinse lather repeat! :)
Remember that SWAMBO has racial hit dice... LOTS of them... :P
Pretty sure SWAMBO could take 90% of these fools (see below) before wildshaping escape away and come back a few days later... rinse lather repeat! :)
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Remember that SWAMBO has racial hit dice... LOTS of them... :P
Ah, yes, you may have a point there. It all depends on the challenge ratings of the opponents inside the castle that the frost giant druid would challenge I guess. For example, if the fortress is teeming with paladins, clerics, and griffon riding cavaliers plus several low-mid range warriors / fighters then I'd imagine that the frost giant druid is gonna have some issues (at least I'd think that would be the case).
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Ah, yes, you may have a point there. It all depends on the challenge ratings of the opponents inside the castle that the frost giant druid would challenge I guess. For example, if the fortress is teeming with paladins, clerics, and griffon riding cavaliers plus several low-mid range warriors / fighters then I'd imagine that the frost giant druid is gonna have some issues (at least I'd think that would be the case).Pretty sure SWAMBO could take 90% of these fools (see below) before wildshaping escape away and come back a few days later... rinse lather repeat! :)
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Remember that SWAMBO has racial hit dice... LOTS of them... :P
Yes, it's in the "repeat" part of the "rinse lather repeat" process that she will encounter some problems... he he he... but she'll be able to severely trim down multiple keeps before the fools organize themselves. One sure thing though: they *will* organize... :)
I've always wanted to re-run Against the Giants, but don't have the time or patience to convert it. So I'm really interested in this. Problem is, I play 3.5 and don't have the disposable income to move to Pathfinder. I've read that Pathfinder and 3.5 are "close enough" that you can run an adventure from one "as is" with the other rules. Is that true? Are there any serious caveats to that? If I do get this AP, I'd want to run it with minimal to no conversion.
Thanks.
If all you did was buy the core rulebook (for $60), then you can use the PRDs online for everything else.
you don't need to buy the core rule book
the only thing that's changed much from 3.5 is skills, there might be some unrecognizable feats these days, but shouldbt be much.
Some NPCs might have classes that aren't in 3.5 (like brawler or skald)
Druid works different, but I don't know whats going to be in the AP.
but by and large, yes you could run it with 3.5 rules set.
an NPC class you don't recognize can easily be replaced with a 3.5 class.
a hill giant in PF? just crack open ye old monster manual and use that hill giant from 3.5…no conversion necessary.
that way you can totally ignore things like CMB/CMD
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While unusual settings and themes are cool sometimes it will be nice to have a "normal" campaign in the mix. I'm pretty excited to actually go back to vanilla for a change.
Personally, I'll skip this AP. Giants aren't really my thing.
However, I do like seeing stuff that pays homage too the old greats of D&D (i.e. The Temple of Elemental Evil, Dragon Mountain etc).
you don't need to buy the core rule book
the only thing that's changed much from 3.5 is skills, there might be some unrecognizable feats these days, but shouldbt be much.
Some NPCs might have classes that aren't in 3.5 (like brawler or skald)
Druid works different, but I don't know whats going to be in the AP.
but by and large, yes you could run it with 3.5 rules set.
an NPC class you don't recognize can easily be replaced with a 3.5 class.
a hill giant in PF? just crack open ye old monster manual and use that hill giant from 3.5…no conversion necessary.that way you can totally ignore things like CMB/CMD
Got it. May consider it, but I'll wait until the reviews are in.
Thanks.
the pdfs for the rulebooks are only 9.99, i'm also cash poor and this price point helps a lot, of course nothing beats free:)
the pdfs for the rulebooks are only 9.99, i'm also cash poor and this price point helps a lot, of course nothing beats free:)
I know, but money is tight right now, and I can't even justify that kind of expenditure. Plus my group and I are heavily (read: monetarily) invested in 3.5 so it doesn't really make sense to jump to PF, even if its close to 3.5. In fact, I have so much 3.5 material, I have enough for at least 2 more campaigns after the one we are in now. (Just finished AoW, just started a mish-mash of adventures that will center on Return to the Ruins of Greyhawk, after that I have Savage Tide, and Rise of the Runelords - original 3.5 version). The only reason I'm looking at this is because of the fact it seems to be an homage to the Giants series.
we all ran our 3.5 ogl stuff for years while pathfinder was launching… it will totally work fine