Out of Subtier Gold in strange cases


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Grand Lodge 4/5

So i was playing in a 1-7 Game
the tiers are
1-2 533
3-4 1311
6-7 36460

the entire party was 7 except a lv 1 character who managed to survive somehow!
(7+7+7+7+7+1)/6 = 6 so it was a high tier game but what to we use for the gold?

Grand Lodge 4/5

i think he wasnt supposed to be able to play but the GM didnt catch it til the end

5/5

Asheira wrote:
i think he wasnt supposed to be able to play but the GM didnt catch it til the end

He was not legal to play. You can never play more than 1 subtier away from your actual level.

OOT for that scenario for a level 1 would be 1/2 of the gold from tier 1-2 & 3-4, and a reminder to play a pre-gen if it comes up again.

3/5 RPG Superstar 2014 Top 16, RPG Superstar 2013 Top 16

Yeah, he shouldn't have been able to play at that table. You can't play more than one subtier away from your level.

I think the two best options are:

1) Give him OoT gold as if he'd played up into only the 3-4 (922 gp)

or

2) Since that wasn't a legal character to play, treat it as if he'd played a level 7 pregen, and reduce the rewards for applying it to a level 1 character (500 gp)

In this particular case, since option 2 results in less gold than if he'd played in his own subtier, I'd go with option 1 instead.

Grand Lodge 4/5

Thanks guys. I really don't see how we didn't catch it til then but i'll let the group know! the GM said to leave it blank for now and we'd get back to him about what to do.

Silver Crusade 2/5

Since the deed is done, I'd give the max they could get, which would be out of tier for the 3-4 subtier, or the average of 1-2 and 3-4.

Sovereign Court 2/5

For some background info, Mike Brock made this ruling because there were PCs who had done nothing but played out of tier and had a ridiculous amount of gold because back then they would get all the gold for that tier. The point of the out-of-sub-tier gold system is to keep people from getting too much gold while rewarding them for extra difficulty from playing in a higher tier. So please keep this in mind in deciding what to do, giving the player the 3-4 out of tier gold would be the best approach.

Silver Crusade 2/5

That was back from when you could choose to tier up. This was popular when people would bum's rush old content with 7 level 2 or 3 PCs. Because the content was written for 4 PCs, the PCs could often prevail through sheer action efficiency. That system was stymied by the revamping of difficulty in season 4 and the calculated tiering system.

Sovereign Court 2/5

Haha yeah that's what I was saying. The point being, it would align more with the goals of the campaign to give the player the 3-4 subtier gold.

Silver Crusade 2/5

I was just adding extra background.

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