"one true" Barbarian?


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Hey guys I've seen the term "One True Barbarian" used around here. I assume it's that people feel there is only one true and most effective way to build a Barbarian. Can anybody tell me what it is? Just curious.


The one true ____ is used anytime you want to do something and someone else acts like their way is the only way to do it properly.

But if you want to know the best way to build a barbarian according to most people here take the superstitious rage power, the beast totem archetype, and the invulnerable rager archetype.

There is also a barbarian guide around here.


Google 'true scotsman' fallacy.

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Thanael wrote:
Google 'true scotsman' fallacy.

Ok I'm about to but if I get porn so help me! Lol

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Popupjoe wrote:
Thanael wrote:
Google 'true scotsman' fallacy.
Ok I'm about to but if I get porn so help me! Lol

Nope it's a real thing. Interesting thanks.

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wraithstrike wrote:

The one true ____ is used anytime you want to do something and someone else acts like their way is the only way to do it properly.

But if you want to know the best way to build a barbarian according to most people here take the superstitious rage power, the beast totem archetype, and the invulnerable rager archetype.

There is also a barbarian guide around here.

I had a feeling one of my players built this type and then tried to play it off as "who me, I just threw these combos together, I had no idea how strong they'd be". I was wondering if he read on a thread somewhere or if it was real common knowledge? Sounds like it's a mind set. Kind of sucks that people feel that way, classes should feel varied with no one correct way to play. imo


Popupjoe wrote:
wraithstrike wrote:

The one true ____ is used anytime you want to do something and someone else acts like their way is the only way to do it properly.

But if you want to know the best way to build a barbarian according to most people here take the superstitious rage power, the beast totem archetype, and the invulnerable rager archetype.

There is also a barbarian guide around here.

I had a feeling one of my players built this type and then tried to play it off as "who me, I just threw these combos together, I had no idea how strong they'd be". I was wondering if he read on a thread somewhere or if it was real common knowledge? Sounds like it's a mind set. Kind of sucks that people feel that way, classes should feel varied with no one correct way to play. imo

It is not a really hard combo to put together, and it is quiet effective, so he might have figured it out, but I don't believe he was clueless about how good it might be. :)

The first time I figured it out was after modifying another build I saw , and I as I was putting it together my smile was this big.


Invulnerable Rager Barbarian, Urban to season as desired (for Dex rager), take superstitious/beast totem line/get spell sunder eventually.

It's not the "One True Barbarian" so much as simple giant melee beatstick of doom and braindead simple to understand. You full attack things. If they're too far away, you charge and full attack them. Your stuff gets you bigger numbers (saves, NA, and touch AC) and anything tricky (magic) you smash in the face and it goes away. It's less rocket science and more just repeatedly launching a rocket at things. Rockets that can dispel magic. Rockets that can suppress effects you can't actually dispel. What I'm saying is, Spell Sunder rocks.

Your player can absolutely design it without help from anyone else. It's only two rage power chains, one of which is explicitly laid out as a chain (totems).


Don't forget eventually getting CAGM, reach, and Combat reflexes, coupled with dazing assault.

Immune to mind effecting? Doesn't matter, daze isn't technically mind affecting. Every time you attack me, I attack back first. Every time I attack you, you make a fort save or lose the rest of your turn.


Yeah, it's not really a Rubiks Cube of optimization. The "One True" Barbarian is something that pretty much anyone with full knowledge of the Barbarian's class features and options will figure out on their own if they make an active effort towards optimizing the class. The only thing that isn't particularly obvious to take is the Human FCB.

"One True" is a bit of a misnomer, of course; the Barbarian does have a number of other good options to choose from, it's just that this particular build is so good that all of the other options aren't as good because you're not taking this one - for example, going Dragon Totem and ramping up your DR to insane levels is a great idea, except that it locks you out of Greater Beast Totem.

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