Do I have to level my toon?


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I haven't leveled my character recently even though I've played enough to do so. I think I am only one play session passed the point where I could have leveled. I haven't used any new abilities or boons, it's just been a matter of not getting around to it and playing at the last PFS session was short notice on my part. Are there any rules that say I HAVE to level a character?

Grand Lodge 4/5 5/55/5 ** Venture-Lieutenant, Florida—Melbourne

The Pathfinder Society Guide to Organized Play wrote:

Society Scenarios do not award experience

points in the traditional sense. Additionally, Pathfinder
Society characters may choose between two different
advancement speeds to customize their Pathfinder
experience to their preference or to allow new friends to
“catch up” to older characters. At character creation and
each time your character gains a level, you decide if you
would like your character to be on the standard or slow
advancement track for the entirety of that level.
Standard Advancement: In the standard advancement
track, for every scenario that your Pathfinder successfully
completes, you receive 1 XP.
Slow Advancement: In the slow advancement track, for
every scenario that your Pathfinder successfully completes,
you receive 1/2 XP.
The choice of advancement track is personal to your
character, so it is entirely possible to have characters in
the same adventuring party advancing at different rates.
In both advancement rates, your Pathfinder levels up
each time he acquires 3 XP. You may not continue to
play your character at the lower level once he has earned
enough XP to gain a level.

Shadow Lodge 4/5

Yes.

Advancing Your Character, Core Rule Book wrote:
A character advances in level as soon as he earns enough experience points to do so—typically, this occurs at the end of a game session, when your GM hands out that session's experience point awards.

Shadow Lodge 4/5

trollbill is just the worst.

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Sammy T wrote:
trollbill is just the worst.

That's is soooo true. I mean, he doesn't even try to deny the fact he is a troll.

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"toon"?

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Nefreet wrote:
"toon"?

Don't get me started. I am still trying to get over people referring to monsters as "mobs." I can't wait till we start referring to NPCs as "Testificates."

Thank you so much, Notch.

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Nefreet wrote:
"toon"?

I've been trying to find the origin of this term for years, but nobody can tell me. The closest I get is "It's from MMOs", but that doesn't actually answer the question.


The terms 'toon' and 'mobs' were in use long before people started punching trees. But Testificates, yeah, that's all on him.

Shadow Lodge 4/5

Lots of varying origin stories, but I definitely buy the "graphics made your characters look cartoon-y and 'toon' became shorthand for character in MMO chat in the mid/late 90s" version.

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Hm, that's the only story I've heard, and it sounds plausible enough. Thanks!

/derail

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"Mobs" predates both "toon" and MMOs. The term comes from MUDs (Multi-User Dungeons or Domains) - text based internet RPGs of the late 80s and 90s, which were the text based predecessors of MMOs. On the object oriented programming side of things, everything in a MUD was an "object", and monsters/NPCs were generally the only objects that could move by themselves, so they were considered "mobile objects", or "mobs" for short. I saw that term in use as early as 92, but it could be even older than that.

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Hmm... where did "proc" come from?

-Matt

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saw thread title
figured there would be a quick answer to the question
then a dozen posts focusing on the word toon
clicked thread
was not disappointed

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Mattastrophic wrote:

Hmm... where did "proc" come from?

-Matt

Oh yeah, forgot about that one. Been wondering about it, too.

Silver Crusade 4/5

So I know "mob" and "toon", but should I feel old for never having even heard of some of these other terms you guys are throwing out there? Maybe it's just because I'm not a video gamer any more.

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Jiggy wrote:
Mattastrophic wrote:

Hmm... where did "proc" come from?

-Matt

Oh yeah, forgot about that one. Been wondering about it, too.

I'm guessing "proc" comes from "processing", but that assumes normal computer terms have any meaning in online gaming.

I have to admit that treating MMO jargon as "normal gamer talk" really bothers me. I actually remember when "the world wide web" was still a novel idea among computer geeks, and I used to know the changes from D&D and AD&D. Yet I have never once played an MMO in my life.

And somehow that makes me a newbie...

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differentiating that MMO players are not "normal gamers" really bothers me

you are not better or special because you use pencils and dice instead of a keyboard and mouse

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Lamontius wrote:

differentiating that MMO players are not "normal gamers" really bothers me

you are not better or special because you use pencils and dice instead of a keyboard and mouse

It's a generational thing I largely suspect. I don't think they mean it as insulting but to us old timers it's a little odd. The first time i heard someone refer to their pc as a tool was in a game a few years back. I had no idea what he was talking about. Been playing for well over a decade so it threw me off, and still oddish to hear to me.

Get off my lawn!

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oh okay so it is cool to be discriminatory and dismissive toward other gamers because you are old, got it

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Lamontius wrote:
oh okay so it is cool to be discriminatory and dismissive toward other gamers because you are old, got it

Thinking something is odd, not liking something or being thrown off by it is neither dismissive nor discriminatory.

The Exchange

The origin I usually find for proc is that it comes from "Programmed Random OCcurance".

As for toon, it certainly seems to have roots in MMOs, but seems to have connotations with a certain amount of detachment that isn't associated with character.

Silver Crusade 4/5

She never said MMO players aren't "normal gamers". She said "treating MMO jargon as 'normal gamer talk' really bothers me". And I kind of agree with her.

I've seen a lot of MMO players who seem to treat all gamers the same and assume that everyone knows their online slang, as if it's universal among gamers just because MMOs are the most popular type of game right now. They need to realize that there are different groups of gamers, each with their own jargon. Online gamers and tabletop gamers are two different groups. There's some overlap, but when one group assumes that everyone from the other group knows their slang, there's going to be confusion.

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"Proc" comes from "process". There was a chance on an attack that the program would have to run an additional process to generate the effect.

Shadow Lodge 4/5

I learned proc from WoW.

Proc on WowWiki, with general history and specific WoW usage

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I guess she didn't expect her statement to draw Agro.

Scarab Sages

Best thing I've found...:
Programmed Random OCcurrence. This is a favorite explanation of "proc" amongst programmers. This alleged origin describes the randomness of a proc, and how it is not a guaranteed event.

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Sammy T wrote:

I learned proc from WoW.

Proc on WowWiki, with general history and specific WoW usage

Ha! This is the exact webpage I was confirming my information on, lol.

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trollbill wrote:
I guess she didn't expect her statement to draw Agro.

Look whose trolling again!

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Under A Bleeding Sun wrote:
trollbill wrote:
I guess she didn't expect her statement to draw Agro.
Look whose trolling again!

What can I say? I gotta be me.

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Successful Troll believes all troll brethren must be troll to trollselves.

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Meanwhile, in the lobby of the Grand Lodge:

<LFG><Tootsweet>LF3M Blackros Matrimony, Min Diplo +12, No PreGens, link char sheet

<general><Bardtarded>HAHAHA I SAW SUM1 W/ A L4 ROGUE WAT A NOOB

<LFG><DrFunkenstein>LFG Aas Life Oracle ChannSpecced, any 7-11, NO HARD MOAD PLZ

<general><GetAGrippli>What do I spend PP on?

<trade><KitKatsune>Why is there even a trade channel, isn't crafting banned in PFS?

<LFG><MysticSurge>LF2Melee subtier 4-5, 20 DPR or GTFO

<general><GetAGrippli>What do I spend PP on?

<trade><Sexysaurus>@kitkatsune, people trade PFS boons in trade

<trade><KitKatsune>oh

<trade><KitKatsune>WTB PFS BOON

<LFG><AsmodeusExMachina>LF2M for Hard Mode Kyle Baird speedrun. Chat specs for invite

<general><GetAGrippli>Anyone? Plz?

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Sammy T wrote:
<LFG><MysticSurge>LF2Melee subtier 4-5, 20 DPR or GTFO

20? LOL NOOB

Silver Crusade 4/5

trollbill wrote:
I guess she didn't expect her statement to draw Agro.

"Aggro" is another pre-MMO term from MUDs. I've never played an MMO, but I do know a few of these from my mudding days.

Silver Crusade 4/5

Funny, the earliest use of the word "toon" in RPG slang that I recall is from the pen and paper RPG of the same name (Toon). If I recall, the PC's were known as toons, while the GM was the animator. Most of the modules were lifted straight from various old Warner Brothers cartoons...

Edit: released by Steve Jackson games in 1984.


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Lamontius wrote:

differentiating that MMO players are not "normal gamers" really bothers me

you are not better or special because you use pencils and dice instead of a keyboard and mouse

Maybe you're not...

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Brett Carlos wrote:

Funny, the earliest use of the word "toon" in RPG slang that I recall is from the pen and paper RPG of the same name (Toon). If I recall, the PC's were known as toons, while the GM was the animator. Most of the modules were lifted straight from various old Warner Brothers cartoons...

Edit: released by Steve Jackson games in 1984.

I was thinking that too. But I figured it was too obscure of a reference to have made it into common gaming vernacular.

Silver Crusade 4/5

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trollbill wrote:
Brett Carlos wrote:

Funny, the earliest use of the word "toon" in RPG slang that I recall is from the pen and paper RPG of the same name (Toon). If I recall, the PC's were known as toons, while the GM was the animator. Most of the modules were lifted straight from various old Warner Brothers cartoons...

Edit: released by Steve Jackson games in 1984.

I was thinking that too. But I figured it was too obscure of a reference to have made it into common gaming vernacular.

We're gamers. There's no such thing as too obscure. :-)


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Sammy T wrote:

Meanwhile, in the lobby of the Grand Lodge:

<LFG><Tootsweet>LF3M Blackros Matrimony, Min Diplo +12, No PreGens, link char sheet

<general><Bardtarded>HAHAHA I SAW SUM1 W/ A L4 ROGUE WAT A NOOB

<LFG><DrFunkenstein>LFG Aas Life Oracle ChannSpecced, any 7-11, NO HARD MOAD PLZ

<general><GetAGrippli>What do I spend PP on?

<trade><KitKatsune>Why is there even a trade channel, isn't crafting banned in PFS?

<LFG><MysticSurge>LF2Melee subtier 4-5, 20 DPR or GTFO

<general><GetAGrippli>What do I spend PP on?

<trade><Sexysaurus>@kitkatsune, people trade PFS boons in trade

<trade><KitKatsune>oh

<trade><KitKatsune>WTB PFS BOON

<LFG><AsmodeusExMachina>LF2M for Hard Mode Kyle Baird speedrun. Chat specs for invite

<general><GetAGrippli>Anyone? Plz?

Poor GetAGrippli, you're "doing it wrong." You should start with, "Cool, I just got a wand of CLW for 20PP." Then the flamers will jump in and degrade you beyonf belief, then go on to list all the "cool" stuff you *should* get for 20 PP. Much easier that way...

or, translated:

noob!!11! getagrippli your doin it rong
say wow i just payd 20pp for clww
than evry1 will tell you wat to git

(My English to other translator may be off.)

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I've played table top RPG's off and on for 30 years. I've played a particular MMO for over 8 years. Joking about 1337-speak aside, I find the 'creeping in' of the MMO gamer attitude much more annoying than the that of the lingo.

To look at it another way, let me paraphrase a tag line one of the more clever players on my first MMO 'realm' used:

"Why is there so much less drama and bad behavior in tabletop gaming than in MMO's? Because all the players are within striking distance of one another."

Silver Crusade 1/5 *

Fromper wrote:
trollbill wrote:
I guess she didn't expect her statement to draw Agro.
"Aggro" is another pre-MMO term from MUDs. I've never played an MMO, but I do know a few of these from my mudding days.

That term has a completely different meaning where I'm from...

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Fromper wrote:
trollbill wrote:
I guess she didn't expect her statement to draw Agro.
"Aggro" is another pre-MMO term from MUDs. I've never played an MMO, but I do know a few of these from my mudding days.

Isn't aggro also surfer slang? I thought that is where it came from.

Scarab Sages 5/5 5/5 *** Venture-Captain, Netherlands

This thread brings back memories


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Bigdaddyjug wrote:
Fromper wrote:
trollbill wrote:
I guess she didn't expect her statement to draw Agro.
"Aggro" is another pre-MMO term from MUDs. I've never played an MMO, but I do know a few of these from my mudding days.
That term has a completely different meaning where I'm from...

I'm not a fan of either, but I'd rather driving my truck through the mud creep into Pathfinder more than I'd like niche lingo from mud and mmo games to infiltrate our community.

'Cause, you know, more places would be large creature friendly.


Jeffrey Fox wrote:
Fromper wrote:
trollbill wrote:
I guess she didn't expect her statement to draw Agro.
"Aggro" is another pre-MMO term from MUDs. I've never played an MMO, but I do know a few of these from my mudding days.
Isn't aggro also surfer slang? I thought that is where it came from.

I've also heard in fairly old English football context.

It's an obvious shortening that's probably being invented independently many times.

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Doomn wrote:

Meanwhile, in the lobby of the Grand Lodge:

<LFG><Tootsweet>LF3M Blackros Matrimony, Min Diplo +12, No PreGens, link char sheet

<general><Bardtarded>HAHAHA I SAW SUM1 W/ A L4 ROGUE WAT A NOOB

<LFG><DrFunkenstein>LFG Aas Life Oracle ChannSpecced, any 7-11, NO HARD MOAD PLZ

<general><GetAGrippli>What do I spend PP on?

<trade><KitKatsune>Why is there even a trade channel, isn't crafting banned in PFS?

<LFG><MysticSurge>LF2Melee subtier 4-5, 20 DPR or GTFO

<general><GetAGrippli>What do I spend PP on?

<trade><Sexysaurus>@kitkatsune, people trade PFS boons in trade

<trade><KitKatsune>oh

<trade><KitKatsune>WTB PFS BOON

<LFG><AsmodeusExMachina>LF2M for Hard Mode Kyle Baird speedrun. Chat specs for invite

<general><GetAGrippli>Anyone? Plz?

We need someone to create a Gear Score addon so we can assess whether or not each character has made optimal spending choices or not. Also all character sheets should be held electronically by Paizo and be available for public inspection so people can make sure their PuG's aren't filled with no hopers and losers who don't scour the latest guides like caffeine fuelled teenagers living on 3 hours sleep a night.

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Woran wrote:
This thread brings back memories

Me, too.

I played a MUD from ~'94 until the early 2000s.

Those were the days.

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Nefreet wrote:
Woran wrote:
This thread brings back memories

Me, too.

I played a MUD from ~'94 until the early 2000s.

Those were the days.

and you knew who you were then

Elves were girls and dwarves were men...
We could use a tomb like gary gygax again...

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Sammy T wrote:

Meanwhile, in the lobby of the Grand Lodge:

<LFG><Tootsweet>LF3M Blackros Matrimony, Min Diplo +12, No PreGens, link char sheet

<LFG><DrFunkenstein>LFG Aas Life Oracle ChannSpecced, any 7-11, NO HARD MOAD PLZ

<LFG><MysticSurge>LF2Melee subtier 4-5, 20 DPR or GTFO

<LFG><AsmodeusExMachina>LF2M for Hard Mode Kyle Baird speedrun. Chat specs for invite

<general><GetAGrippli>Anyone? Plz?

This sounds a lot like the hallway outside Sagamore before the special...

Sczarni 5/5 5/55/5 ***

BigNorseWolf wrote:
Nefreet wrote:
Woran wrote:
This thread brings back memories

Me, too.

I played a MUD from ~'94 until the early 2000s.

Those were the days.

and you knew who you were then

Elves were girls and dwarves were men...
We could use a tomb like gary gygax again...

Also, the origins of sexting.

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