Any idea when the new Factions will be reportable?


Website Feedback


1 person marked this as a favorite.

Just curious if this is coming soon, it feels like it is rolling out quite slowly. Still showing Cheliax even though I haven't played any sessions since Season 6 started as anything but Dark Archive.

Scarab Sages RPG Superstar 2015 Top 16

That is a very good question! :)

Grand Lodge

Given that you can still report people as Lantern Lodge or Shadow Lodge, I wouldn't hold your breath on the changeover coming any time soon.

Sczarni

I'm hoping Monday. John Compton said some things were being announced in a blog.

I'm still wondering why the new Factions weren't available the day they were all listed together in one blog. That would have made the most sense to me. Give people time to switch their online profiles.


Rose, any other name and all that

Silver Crusade RPG Superstar 2013 Top 8

Jeff Merola wrote:
Given that you can still report people as Lantern Lodge or Shadow Lodge, I wouldn't hold your breath on the changeover coming any time soon.

I have a feeling that this has a couple of reasons behind it:

1. Perhaps the way the system is constructed the retired factions can't be removed from reporting without removing them from the system entirely. If that is the case and the old factions are removed there will be a swath of PCs with no reported factions or prestige in the system.

2. They want to allow reporting of old games where PCs actually were members of the retired faction at the time.

Shadow Lodge

While it's nice to finally have at least some word that things are being taken care of, I really wish they would have done this last Friday, or even Saturday. I've got a lot of players, and characters myself that have basically been on hold since before Gencon, and I'm pretty sure most people game on the weekends. It's been over a month now, and each week is another game I either need to not report or make a note to eventually go back and correct things, (more likely that I'll make a mistake when it happens).

Grand Lodge

Michael Eshleman wrote:
Jeff Merola wrote:
Given that you can still report people as Lantern Lodge or Shadow Lodge, I wouldn't hold your breath on the changeover coming any time soon.

I have a feeling that this has a couple of reasons behind it:

1. Perhaps the way the system is constructed the retired factions can't be removed from reporting without removing them from the system entirely. If that is the case and the old factions are removed there will be a swath of PCs with no reported factions or prestige in the system.

2. They want to allow reporting of old games where PCs actually were members of the retired faction at the time.

I can almost see 1 being possible, but there are plenty of ways to keep the old factions in the database without being able to report new ones. It would (should) be a very simple change and wouldn't (again--shouldn't) take more than a few minutes of anyone's time. This being from someone that's done more than db admin stuff than they ever thought they'd do.

Grand Lodge

claudekennilol wrote:
I can almost see 1 being possible, but there are plenty of ways to keep the old factions in the database without being able to report new ones. It would (should) be a very simple change and wouldn't (again--shouldn't) take more than a few minutes of anyone's time. This being from someone that's done more than db admin stuff than they ever thought they'd do.

I could be misremembering, but I seem to recall someone saying at one point that the reporting system was rather finicky and they'd rather not touch things they didn't have to.

Shadow Lodge

Has there been any update to this?

Silver Crusade

Today's blog post announced the new scenarios (6-04 and 6-05). Nothing about this or anything else.

But as BNW implied, you just use the old names to represent their corresponding new factions for now. I'm assuming that's why Paizo doesn't have any sense of urgency on this.

Dark Archive

As one of my gaming group friends has said numerous times, "Paizo sucks at webs."

Liberty's Edge

Pathfinder Battles Case Subscriber; Pathfinder Maps, Pathfinder Accessories Subscriber; Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Charter Superscriber; Starfinder Charter Superscriber
Bardez wrote:
As one of my gaming group friends has said numerous times, "Paizo sucks at webs."

I wouldn't say they actually suck. I think the issue is they have long list of stuff to do right now and PFS is on the bottom of that list.

Hopefully they will fins someone to take that Web job position they are advertising.

Grand Lodge

1 person marked this as a favorite.
Dragnmoon wrote:
Bardez wrote:
As one of my gaming group friends has said numerous times, "Paizo sucks at webs."

I wouldn't say they actually suck. I think the issue is they have long list of stuff to do right now and PFS is on the bottom of that list.

Hopefully they will fins someone to take that Web job position they are advertising.

I haven't seen worse forums software in a long, long time.

Shadow Lodge

2 people marked this as a favorite.

Yeah, I'm a bit over the surprises. I think everyone would just prefer an update, even if it's "we're a long way off, huge delays".

Sovereign Court

Jeff Merola wrote:
Dragnmoon wrote:
Bardez wrote:
As one of my gaming group friends has said numerous times, "Paizo sucks at webs."

I wouldn't say they actually suck. I think the issue is they have long list of stuff to do right now and PFS is on the bottom of that list.

Hopefully they will fins someone to take that Web job position they are advertising.

I haven't seen worse forums software in a long, long time.

It's incredibly difficult for a new user to navigate this website. I can't imagine that they've done any usability testing.

For instance, it would have taken me forever to figure out how to report my first game had I not been shown, because you have to go to My Account -> Pathfinder Society.Make Changes (Make changes to what? Why would I click on this?) -> GM Event Coordinator -> Create Your Event.

These steps aren't exactly logical for a new person. Of course there's not a great place for that kind of feature either based on the way the website is architected, so the sanest assumption is that there's some button under GM Resources.

I still find myself forgetting how to get to the FAQs occasionally.

Dark Archive

Acedio wrote:
Jeff Merola wrote:
Bardez wrote:
As one of my gaming group friends has said numerous times, "Paizo sucks at webs."
I haven't seen worse forums software in a long, long time.

It's incredibly difficult for a new user to navigate this website. I can't imagine that they've done any usability testing.

For instance, it would have taken me forever to figure out how to report my first game had I not been shown, because you have to go to My Account -> Pathfinder Society.Make Changes (Make changes to what? Why would I click on this?) -> GM Event Coordinator -> Create Your Event.

These steps aren't exactly logical for a new person. Of course there's not a great place for that kind of feature either based on the way the website is architected, so the sanest assumption is that there's some button under GM Resources.

I still find myself forgetting how to get to the FAQs occasionally.

There are a lot of idiosyncrasies and general weirdness about how Paizo uses tech. The marketing, catalog, store, purchase repository, PFS campaign reporting, blog, forum, FAQ, and PbP alias use cases all rolled into one package makes it feel like a mess. The site should be split into several functionally distinct packages and presentations to make it user friendly, but it isn't. I guess this site works for Paizo (in that they haven't changed it for the past several years), but I could be wrong about that.

As an IT professional, I'd say that tech (and/or tech-related project management and planning) is not one of Paizo's core competencies. Nor is product editing (PFS scenario consistency, anyone?). Making this kind of change should be incredibly straightforward, but going off of my gut feeling about the website ("a mess", see above), it likely is much more complicated than it should be.

But I'll be damned if Paizo doesn't deliver on pretty books and fun adventures, though.

Grand Lodge

3 people marked this as a favorite.
Pathfinder Adventure, Rulebook Subscriber
Acedio wrote:
For instance, it would have taken me forever to figure out how to report my first game had I not been shown, because you have to go to My Account -> Pathfinder Society.Make Changes (Make changes to what? Why would I click on this?) -> GM Event Coordinator -> Create Your Event.

You can do that? I always go Pathfinder Society page -> My Pathfinder Society -> GM Event Coordinator -> Create Your Event.

Silver Crusade

I am getting more concerned that no Paizo person has responded to this thread yet.

Webstore Gninja Minion

Amedeo Lanatus wrote:
I am getting more concerned that no Paizo person has responded to this thread yet.

The people that could answer the questions have been on vacation or otherwise swamped with work—but it's not dropped off our radar.

Paizo Employee Publisher, Chief Creative Officer

4 people marked this as a favorite.

I just became fully aware of this problem earlier this week, and have been looking into what is going on. It's currently behind a few more or less critical tasks on the hands of the web team. It's the highest on a list of PFS-related tasks, and I'm on the job now trying to advocate that it finds its place as soon as it can.

I'll make a point to come back and update you guys on the progress of this job.

I apologize that this issue has slipped through the cracks for as long as it has. It is very definitely on the agenda.

Sovereign Court

1 person marked this as a favorite.
TriOmegaZero wrote:
Acedio wrote:
For instance, it would have taken me forever to figure out how to report my first game had I not been shown, because you have to go to My Account -> Pathfinder Society.Make Changes (Make changes to what? Why would I click on this?) -> GM Event Coordinator -> Create Your Event.
You can do that? I always go Pathfinder Society page -> My Pathfinder Society -> GM Event Coordinator -> Create Your Event.

Hahaha awesome, thanks! I have never seen that "My Pathfinder Society" link before.

Find something new everyday on this website...

Grand Lodge

Pathfinder Adventure, Rulebook Subscriber

Happy to have helped. :)

Sczarni

1 person marked this as a favorite.
TriOmegaZero wrote:
Acedio wrote:
For instance, it would have taken me forever to figure out how to report my first game had I not been shown, because you have to go to My Account -> Pathfinder Society.Make Changes (Make changes to what? Why would I click on this?) -> GM Event Coordinator -> Create Your Event.
You can do that? I always go Pathfinder Society page -> My Pathfinder Society -> GM Event Coordinator -> Create Your Event.

Oh. Wow. For the last two years I've always done it the way Acedio described, too.

Grand Lodge

Huh. I go in several different ways to my reporting.

The My Pathfinder Society way, My Account, click on the Pathfinder Society section title, which brings me to my PC list (27, 28, what?!), etc.

Depends on what section of the site I am on at the time.

Silver Crusade

I actually have the "My Pathfinder Society" page bookmarked, because I can never remember how to get to it from elsewhere. But once I'm there, I know how to do everything (report events, modify characters, etc).

Paizo Employee Publisher, Chief Creative Officer

1 person marked this as a favorite.

Just had a meeting about this issue today. I can't say when it will be resolved, but the web team is very much aware of the problem and are looking for the right time to start working on a fix.

Silver Crusade

Many thanks for the update Erik.

Liberty's Edge

Pathfinder Battles Case Subscriber; Pathfinder Maps, Pathfinder Accessories Subscriber; Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Charter Superscriber; Starfinder Charter Superscriber

I hope you guys fill that web job position your advertising soon. Your web team is working way to hard recently.

Webstore Gninja Minion

Dragnmoon wrote:
I hope you guys fill that web job position your advertising soon. Your web team is working way to hard recently.

..."recently?"

Liberty's Edge

Pathfinder Battles Case Subscriber; Pathfinder Maps, Pathfinder Accessories Subscriber; Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Charter Superscriber; Starfinder Charter Superscriber
Liz Courts wrote:
Dragnmoon wrote:
I hope you guys fill that web job position your advertising soon. Your web team is working way to hard recently.
..."recently?"

It has only really been noticeable since Gen Con

Paizo Employee Publisher, Chief Creative Officer

1 person marked this as a favorite.

We have added significantly to our web team in recent months, and every day they are making progress.

Things are on the right track, and with the added capacity soon to come we are all optimistic about the team's ability to keep things stable, deal with emergencies, and make sure smaller items like this don't fall through the cracks.

Sovereign Court RPG Superstar 2010 Top 16, 2011 Top 32

Erik, that's great. Can I suggest a blog post where you cover all this? I know the web issues are the main reason I hear people in my local area grumbling about Paizo. It would be very reassuring to see you guys addressing this head-on.

Community / Forums / Paizo / Website Feedback / Any idea when the new Factions will be reportable? All Messageboards

Want to post a reply? Sign in.