Joshua Birk 898 |
I wanted to get clarification one Jirelle power "Reduce Structural damage to your ship by 1."
Does that mean
A) Reduce Structural damage to your party's ship by 1.
or
B) When you are commanding a ship, Reduce Structural damage to it by 1.
I have assumed it is A, and the rule book seems to use "your ship" and "your parties ship" interchangeable. However, the ambiguity of your (which can be both singular and plural) creates room for doubt.
Additionally, the character description "When she’s in command of a ship, she can steer it through the most dangerous waters with ease," suggests that the answer could be B.
So, how do you you play this?
Dave Riley |
Been playing it as any structural damage, no matter when it's incurred. I can see possible interpretations for only when she's commanding a ship, but that really weakens the power. -1 structural damage at any time is a medium-good power. There's enough of it that it saves you a card here and there. -1 structural damage only on her turn is kind of "who cares?" At least with the ways we've seen SD cropping up so far.
Hawkmoon269 |
I think it applies all the time. Its your (plural) ship, whether you are commanding it or not (also whether you are on it or not).
Plus, the rules talk about reducing structural damage regardless of whether you are commanding or even on the ship. I don't see why her power should be more restrictive.
Ironvein |
An Imaginary FAQ Entry wrote:Sorry, the proper pronoun there should be "all y'all's".
Resolution: On the character Jirelle, change "Reduce Structural damage to your ship by 1" to "Reduce Structural damage to y'all's ship by 1."
Actually, it's a pirate theme so shouldn't it be 'Reduce Structural damage to yarr ship by 1'?
Mike Selinker Pathfinder Adventure Card Game Designer |
Vic Wertz Chief Technical Officer |
If we cared if Jirelle were *on* the ship, we would have said "When you are on a ship, reduce Structural damage to it by 1."
And "Reduce structural damage by 1" isn't quite good enough because we want to leave the door open to the possibility that there may be opportunities to have structural damage dealt to a ship that isn't yours. (We didn't do that in S&S, but that doesn't mean it can't happen in OP...)
Vic Wertz Chief Technical Officer |
Mike Selinker Pathfinder Adventure Card Game Designer |
Orbis Orboros wrote:You guys may also introduce structural damage to something that isn't a ship in the future, right? ;3We did intentionally choose a term that would work just as well with, say, fortifications. But it's more about futureproofing than for a specific plan.
When we came up with "Structural damage," we made a list: ships, castles, tanks, really huge golems….
Not that I'm saying anything.
Mike Selinker Pathfinder Adventure Card Game Designer |
Flat the Impaler |
Flat the Impaler wrote:No, you don't.Mike Selinker wrote:When we came up with "Structural damage," we made a list: ships, castles, tanks, really huge golems….Want... Golem. :)
Depends. Am I fighting it or riding it? Is it a form of transportation like the ship? (That is the golem I want.)
Mike Selinker Pathfinder Adventure Card Game Designer |
Andrew K |
Vic Wertz wrote:Orbis Orboros wrote:You guys may also introduce structural damage to something that isn't a ship in the future, right? ;3We did intentionally choose a term that would work just as well with, say, fortifications. But it's more about futureproofing than for a specific plan.When we came up with "Structural damage," we made a list: ships, castles, tanks, really huge golems….
Not that I'm saying anything.
Since you mentioned tanks --- bring Reign of Winter after Wrath!!!
Tanks, Russians, who doesn't want to bring that into PACG?!?!
DirkSJ |
If we cared if Jirelle were *on* the ship, we would have said "When you are on a ship, reduce Structural damage to it by 1."
We pretty much assumed that just as you wrote it: If you had meant "while commanding" or "while on" you would have said it.
Blanket statements are used a lot in this game. Like blessings say "any check" and other cards say "your check" or "at your location" explicitly.
That didn't stop us from incorrectly using blessings as self-only for all of RotR but...we are at least doing it right now in S&S :).