Boar Style Feat Question


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Hello everyone.

A quick question for you all. I am playing around with a feral themed brawler and, naturally, my eyes fell on the Boar style feats which would be perfect for my build so far. However, there seems to be a disconnect between the description of what the feat allows you to do and what the feat effects should do. Namely, this is in regard to the Bleed effects you gain from the feats themselves.

D20pfsrd wrote:

Bleed

A creature that is taking bleed damage takes the listed amount of damage at the beginning of its turn. Bleeding can be stopped by a DC 15 Heal check or through the application of any spell that cures hit point damage (even if the bleed is ability damage). Some bleed effects cause ability damage or even ability drain. Bleed effects do not stack with each other unless they deal different kinds of damage. When two or more bleed effects deal the same kind of damage, take the worse effect. In this case, ability drain is worse than ability damage.

Supposedly, Boar Style gives you 2d6 bleed damage with two or more successful unarmed strikes once per round

D20pfsrd wrote:
While using this style, once per round when you hit a single foe with two or more unarmed strikes, you can tear flesh. When you do, you deal 2d6 bleed damage with the attack.

But if you look farther to Boar shred, the last feat in that line, it says this.

D20pfsrd wrote:
While using Boar Style, whenever you tear an opponent’s flesh, once per round at the start of that opponent’s turn he takes 1d6 bleed damage. The bleed damage dealt while using Boar Style persist even if you later switch to a different style.

Am I misunderstanding how bleed damage works ? Could they have possibly meant Rend instead of bleed in the description of the feat ? As I understand it, the target should be taking 2d6 bleed damage at the start of his next turn until healed. Does this mean that Board Shred adds a additional d6 onto that total?


There have been a number of threads on this in the past if you search the rules forum. The Boar Style feat and feat train are not particularly clear so you will see a lot of table variation.

My view is this:

1. The rule says that Boar Style does bleed damage, therefore it is bleed damage not rend damage.

2. I think that the 2d6 bleed from Boar Style lasts only one round. The sister and later feat “Boar Shred” specifically provides for a continuing 1d6 bleed effect. Further, there is precedent in the rules for time delimited bleed effects as shown for the Death Domain on page 42 of the Core Rules. While the general rules for bleed call for a continuing effect until healed, in the case of the Boar Style 2d6, I think there is sufficient evidence to say it is a time delimited effect of 1 round.

3. Because the Boar Style damage is a bleed effect, I think that the 2d6 damage is not applied until the start of the foe’s first turn after having suffered from the attack, as per the general bleed rules.

4. I don't think that the 2d6 bleed damage from Boar Style stacks with the 1d6 bleed damage from Boar Shred. If a foe is already bleeding from a previous Boar Shred, and suffers yet another successful Boar Style attack, the 2d6 bleed from the second Boar Style would not stack with the persistent 1d6 bleed from the Boar Shred because the two bleeds are from the same source. The greater of the two effects should occur at the beginning of the foe’s next turn.

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