Jeremias |
Marc Radle wrote:As others have correctly pointed out, many of these settings are closed content or otherwise unavailable for conversion.
The Forgotten Realms, Greyhawk are certainly off the table. I would imagine so are most of the others like Planescape, Dragonlance, Eberron, Spelljammer, Ravenloft, Dark Sun etc.
Not really sure what the point of this is ...
Pretty sure it's fishing for ideas of "what themes do people want more of".
I don't think anyone thinks Louis is planning on actually converting these worlds specifically. But people saying "I want more Dark Sun" gives a pretty concise way of saying "I want more post-apocalyptic, harsh worlds with a heavy focus on survival with some psionic flavor and some things I'm certainly forgetting".
Ditto with "I want more Eberron" being simpler to say than "I want advanced magical technology, non-standard monster/race alignments and associations, more complex and less absolute divine arrangements, and lots of political maneuvering between noble houses and powerful mercantile empires".
If that were true, count me out. I'm not interested in the "theme", I'm interested in the specific campaign world. If that is not possible, I'll pass.
Chemlak |
1) Pre-spell plague Forgotten Realms
2) All other Faerunian settings (Al-quadim, Kara Tur, Maztica)
3) Planescape, berk!
4) Ummm...
Heck, I'm running a FR campaign right now (that I've been running since 1991), and the year is only 1364 DR, so long way to go before the spellplague shenanigans affect me at all, anyway.
Endzeitgeist |
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Ravenloft (If the best authors who really GET the setting and SUBTLE horror took over...Think VRG to the Shadow Fey/Gazetteer-series/Bleak House)
Dark Sun
Midnight (With APs and MANY modules; We have the sourcebooks!)
Maztica (or a similar South-American-style setting)
Not-Planescape (too tied with cosmology; Something NEW in the vein)
Spelljammer (since Sailing the Starlit Seas failed...)
Anaro |
Greyhawk, mostly for nostalgia reasons, but I agree that Golarion does well in emulating most of the feel.
Birthright, bolted on to Golarion, would also be interesting.
Maztica.
The Hollow World basic D&D thing was also cool.
Joex The Pale |
1) Spelljammer, but a little more serious. I loved the elves/orcs war, neogi and illithids, but the giant space hamsters, and other comedic toys kinda detracted from the feel.
2) Ravenloft. Love horror games, especially subtle horror.
3) Dark Sun. Underdogs fighting against corrupt, near-godlike rulers in a post-apocalyptic setting? Yes please!
4) Planescape. Intrigue, machinations and the power-mad fighting the crazy-mad! You had me at "intrigue"...
Mythraine |
1. Ghostwalk (how has NO-ONE mentioned this?!?)
Wide margin to second place ...
2. Dragonlance
3. Ravenloft
4. Dark Sun
I was VERY hard-pressed to chose four, so others I would LOVE to see ...
5. Greyhawk
6. Eberron
7. Planescape
I'm also in the camp that if one of these was updated for REALZ (a fully licensed product) for PFRPG rules I would throw money at it. But if it's just a inspired-by setting I would most definitely pass.
Can't wait to see what you have going Louis!
Kenjishinomouri |
1. Eberron- theres a lot of goodies in there, it takes high magic to another level, so many unique races and the artificer class. They must all be part of pathfinder!
2.Ravenloft- Good ol' horror setting, would prove to bring many new and interesting rules to the for front for pathfinder.
3.Rokugan- I want more oriental themed stuff for pathfinder, and I really don't care where it comes from!
4.Spelljammer/highscifi setting- I just would enjoy a setting focused on flying through space, encountering various worlds, using rediculous tech/magic. It really brings a new edge on exploring a fantasy setting.
HM.Kingdoms of Kalamar- Very low high fantasy stuff, sometimes you just want a campaign without all the ridiculous races, and focusing more on elements that dont involve fighting rediculous monsters, and just creating intersting characters without going the crazy route of Aismar Sorcerer/barbarian with a crossblooded undead/fey bloodline!
Nipin |
1) Dragonlance
2) Ravenloft
3) Girdlegard from The Dwarves (wiki) and its sequels (I am aware this does not technically fall under "DnD settings")
4) Middle Earth
Orthos |
But I agree with posters above - all of this is moot if what results is "thematic". I don't want "not-quite-Eberron" or "not-quite-Athas". Soemthig completely new would be interesting, or a true conversion.
Well, a true conversion of pretty much any of these is impossible, or so nearly so as not to be worth speculating on. So if that's your expectation, you might as well bow out now before you're inevitably disappointed.
Oceanshieldwolf |
Oceanshieldwolf wrote:But I agree with posters above - all of this is moot if what results is "thematic". I don't want "not-quite-Eberron" or "not-quite-Athas". Soemthig completely new would be interesting, or a true conversion.Well, a true conversion of pretty much any of these is impossible, or so nearly so as not to be worth speculating on. So if that's your expectation, you might as well bow out now before you're inevitably disappointed.
I don't have any expectations, so I can't be disappointed. I'm curious about the possibilities. I'm fairly sure this is all just testing the waters of desire for Louis to make something that isn't a true conversion, but he's being cagey and dangling "wait and see"s.
As to the worth of speculation… ;)
Samy |
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If it's impossible, then why ask?
If the question was meant to be about themes rather than about the settings, it could have been clearer about it.
For me personally, it doesn't make much of a difference to my answer. I want to see Maztica, yes, but if the question were about themes instead, I'd still want to see Native American themes. So it's not a big difference for me.
But I can easily understand that the same doesn't hold for many people. A person wanting to see the Forgotten Realms isn't automatically going to want to see a new generic fantasy setting.
TL;DR: I think this thread would have benefited from an early appearance by the Department of Expectation Management.
Ivan Rûski |
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Eberron, while skipping over the fact that magic has completely replaced science/technology as to allow gunslingers/alchemists. Maybe making magic vs tech a theme?
Spelljammer. Sailing through space. Awesome.
Dark Sun. Admittedly don't know a whole lot about this setting, but the little I've read seems interesting.
Ghostwalk/Ravenloft mash-up. 'Nuff said.
Orthos |
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I'm fairly sure this is all just testing the waters of desire for Louis to make something that isn't a true conversion, but he's being cagey and dangling "wait and see"s.
TL;DR: I think this thread would have benefited from an early appearance by the Department of Expectation Management.
This is pretty standard procedure for Louis, admittedly. He's fairly fond of being vague and cagey and then doing a "big reveal". As someone pointed out earlier, it's got its fans and its detractors as a method.
LMPjr007 |
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Oceanshieldwolf wrote:I'm fairly sure this is all just testing the waters of desire for Louis to make something that isn't a true conversion, but he's being cagey and dangling "wait and see"s.Samy wrote:TL;DR: I think this thread would have benefited from an early appearance by the Department of Expectation Management.This is pretty standard procedure for Louis, admittedly. He's fairly fond of being vague and cagey and then doing a "big reveal". As someone pointed out earlier, it's got its fans and its detractors as a method.
THREADJACK --
Yes I think this is standard procedure for 95% of the marketing in the world. Apple. Samsung. Marvel Comic. Adobe. Most blockbuter movies teaser trailers. Paizo AND WOTC too.
There will always be people who like one thing and an equal amount who hate it. I asked a simple question: What four (4) D&D campaign setting would you like to see converted for use in Pathfinder?
Now I have people looking into the MOTIVE of why I asked that question instead of actually answering the question. Better question would be is: Why are you so interested in what my future plans are?
-- END OF THREADJACK
Oceanshieldwolf |
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I already answered the questions. I find discerning the motive to be as interesting as reading about what other people are interested in as I am interested in why you made the thread in the first place. This is the Compatible Products from Other Publishers forum on Paizo's website. Not twitter or Facebook.
C'mon Louis. Whatcha up to? ;P
Orthos |
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Yes I think this is standard procedure for 95% of the marketing in the world.
I think you greatly overestimate that. At the very least, most of those are significantly less vague about it. But we've had this conversation before, about the whole "any advertising is good advertising" mindset.
Now I have people looking into the MOTIVE of why I asked that question instead of actually answering the question.
Well, as OSW said, everyone currently involved in this discussion/speculation has already answered the question =P Unless you don't want people posting at all who have already done so, this is the inevitable, logical next step in the train of conversation.
Better question would be is: Why are you so interested in what my future plans are?
Less for myself, because anything you produce is either going to be something I can pick apart and use for my own homebrew setting, or something I won't be interested in anyway. But a lot of people seem to be under the mistaken impression that there's a chance that this is actually bringing those desired settings to an updated Pathfinder conversion, and are now more often stating that if they're just going to get a setting "inspired" or "themed" like the ones they're requesting and not the ACTUAL SETTING itself, they're not going to be interested.
So it's an issue of people getting their hopes up, when inevitably they're going to be let down because the thing they want just isn't possible.
No one's asking you to come out and say "here's everything we're planning", but as Samy said, a little Department of Expectation Management minor "yes/no"ing might not be a bad idea.