Marcus Robert Hosler |
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20 point buy, level 20, Mythic Tier 10, Over WBL because I don't see a chart that takes Mythics into account.
With that in mind: Character
Tactic: Use martial flexibility to grab Teleport Tactician and other feats as needed. Charge Cthulhu using Cage Enemy. Use Cage Enemy and Every Ready to keep Cthulhu next to you. Use Mythic Abilities to boost damage and defenses.
I'm not sure what the Big C can do once the fighter gets close to avoid being killed twice.
NOTE: The ranges on the save bonuses is due to courageous, furyborn and guardian special weapon properties. Furyborn causes ranges by itself, but depending on how all three interact the ranges might narrower. This fighter only needs the min interpretation though.
Bob Bob Bob |
I may just not be familiar with the archetypes being used, but I'm not seeing anything that's stopping an astral projecting Cthulhu from being killed by the fighter who assumes he's won (no knowledge (arcana) or spellcraft, no see invis) and then Cthulhu plagues him with augmented Nightmares with whatever he decides is a fun rider. Feeblemind, insanity, whatever he cooks up with wish.
Lyra Amary |
It's not really an accomplishment to kill Cthulhu if you have that many mythic tiers. Mythic Vital Strike can output enough damage to kill Cthulhu in a single hit, and Mythic Improved Initiative ensures that you always go first. The only thing that might be a roadblock for a Fighter is the DC 40 save or die aura that Cthulhu has, and I'm sure that problem is easily solved as well.
Marcus Robert Hosler |
I may just not be familiar with the archetypes being used, but I'm not seeing anything that's stopping an astral projecting Cthulhu from being killed by the fighter who assumes he's won (no knowledge (arcana) or spellcraft, no see invis) and then Cthulhu plagues him with augmented Nightmares with whatever he decides is a fun rider. Feeblemind, insanity, whatever he cooks up with wish.
As long as he has mythic power, he can just save through it all.
NOTE: He's Griffith because of the wings. I would make Guts with levels of fighter and barbarian totaling well over 20 but with far less gear(artifact sword and artifact armor plus some technology guide gear) and no mythics.
Marcus Robert Hosler |
He still fails his save on a 1, and Cthulhu has the benefit of immortality to wait for that double/triple/whatever 1 on the fighter's saving throw.
Up to 23 ones in a row, due to one of his mythic abilities.
Cthulhu also can't kill him without an artifact weapon. If Cthulhu goes full Batman on this fighter, then he'll probably win. If he is more confidant in his Eldritch powers and foolishly let's what he thinks to me a mere mortal in melee range, then he dies.
Marcus Robert Hosler |
I would suggest that Cthulu IS an artifact level weapon and considering he's the high priest of a god I rather suspect he's more than likely using all the gear he can lay his tentacles on incase another member of his race attacks him. Plus he eats 1d6 adventurers a round auto-kill.
I wouldn't say he is an artifact. He is a mythic source though.
As far as the gear thing goes, I wouldn't have him grab things that effect his table. Because why have a table if he is suppose to grab Bracers of Armor +8 and other such things? Why not just put that in the table? I'm also not sure what Item slots Cthulhu has. I think this fighter could handle extra armor items though to a point. For the big C's horde idk what to give him, probably things to make use of his UMD.
Oh I think I found the tactic to give the big C his highest win percentage. First round he starts off with mythic wish mage's disjunction, this will cause the fighter to burn a lot of mythic power to keep all his items working. The big C then keeps triggering saves and using his move action to trigger Cage Enemy which causes more mythic power burning. Should the fighter run out of Mythic power, Cthulhu can just fly out of reach, gate in the rest of the great old ones and spam star-spawn. Without Mythic power, the fighter will eventually die.
So the question is if the Fighter will run out of mythic power before the Big C is dead.
Liam Warner |
I vaguely recall the original verse had the line "In his house at R'lyeh dead Cthulhu waits dreaming" so the question is more does being killed actually bother him?
EDIT
Well actually it was "Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn." but the translation is more helpful plus there was the "That is not dead which can eternal lie" so make of that what you will.
Zark |
Weapon Focus: Boat
DominusMegadeus wrote:Gah! I just started watching the new movies and I am both thrilled and aching inside because I know where it's going.I think his name is supposed to be Guts. That's a crossbow, too.
What is Guts? What Movies are you watching?
I’m just curious :)Eltacolibre |
Mikaze wrote:Weapon Focus: Boat
DominusMegadeus wrote:Gah! I just started watching the new movies and I am both thrilled and aching inside because I know where it's going.I think his name is supposed to be Guts. That's a crossbow, too.
What is Guts? What Movies are you watching?
I’m just curious :)
Berserk, an anime which has been remade as high quality animated movies. Believe there is like 3 movies out at the moment, maybe more? While it is anime/manga, Berserk is a dark fantasy world. Guts is the main protagonist, a barbarian essentially with a huge sword.
I'd recommend to watch it.
Zark |
Zark wrote:Mikaze wrote:Weapon Focus: Boat
DominusMegadeus wrote:Gah! I just started watching the new movies and I am both thrilled and aching inside because I know where it's going.I think his name is supposed to be Guts. That's a crossbow, too.
What is Guts? What Movies are you watching?
I’m just curious :)Berserk, an anime which has been remade as high quality animated movies. Believe there is like 3 movies out at the moment, maybe more? While it is anime/manga, Berserk is a dark fantasy world. Guts is the main protagonist, a barbarian essentially with a huge sword.
I'd recommend to watch it.
I will. Thanks :D
Marcus Robert Hosler |
Berserk is still, after over a decade my favorite anime of all time. It has beaten out Death Note, Neon Genesis Evangelion, DBZ, everything.
Anyway, Cthulu is only high priest of a god and not an actual god?
He has stats. So in PF, he is not a God.
Demigods can still have clerics though.
DominusMegadeus |
Berserk is still, after over a decade my favorite anime of all time. It has beaten out Death Note, Neon Genesis Evangelion, DBZ, everything.
Indeed. Probably one of the top mangas, ever. Even the secondary characters, while they will never be quite as cool as Guts, are better than most other anime supporting casts. Serpico, especially. While I usually despise young girls being in the main party just for the sake of having a young girl in the party, Witch Loli is actually an endearing character and I don't feel like she's forced upon the reader.
Now back to your regularly scheduled Cthulu fight already in progress.
Marcus Robert Hosler |
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I just use the big C as a metric. If a max level, max geared, max mythic character can handle him, then I think the character is plenty strong for that tier of play, since in theory Cthulhu is suppose to be an epic challenge for an entire party of max characters.
From his stat block, I can gather that he is suppose to be invincible. And in his mythos he is suppose to only be a very small fish in his relative pond. Cthulhu is the servant of the Outer Gods.
I also think mythic characters can no longer be considered mortal.
Cerberus Seven |
Berserk is still, after over a decade my favorite anime of all time. It has beaten out Death Note, Neon Genesis Evangelion, DBZ, everything.
Anyway, Cthulu is only high priest of a god and not an actual god?
If you haven't yet, try Gurren Lagann. It's the most ridiculous thing I've ever seen and I loved every minute of it.
Eltacolibre |
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yeah mythic characters are demigods themselves...we are talking about characters meeting with gods and can only be killed with artifacts at tier 9+...yeah a mythic tier 10 character is not a normal character by far.
I have mythic in my setting but beside the PCS, there are only a few creatures and heroes or villains who are mythics.
Marcus Robert Hosler |
Dark Immortal wrote:Technically, correct, though you could consider him a Demi-god.Berserk is still, after over a decade my favorite anime of all time. It has beaten out Death Note, Neon Genesis Evangelion, DBZ, everything.
Anyway, Cthulu is only high priest of a god and not an actual god?
Fixed your link :P
Mikaze |
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Zark wrote:Mikaze wrote:Weapon Focus: Boat
DominusMegadeus wrote:Gah! I just started watching the new movies and I am both thrilled and aching inside because I know where it's going.I think his name is supposed to be Guts. That's a crossbow, too.
What is Guts? What Movies are you watching?
I’m just curious :)Berserk, an anime which has been remade as high quality animated movies. Believe there is like 3 movies out at the moment, maybe more? While it is anime/manga, Berserk is a dark fantasy world. Guts is the main protagonist, a barbarian essentially with a huge sword.
I'd recommend to watch it.
There's a lot more going on in the series beyond that description too. I do recommend it but it really does require some warnings beforehand: It is triggery as hell.
That said, the drama can pull you in and the artwork in the manga quickly grows from decent into some of the most beautifully rendered in the business, even if much of the subject matter is horrible horrible horrible good God why
You'll get a different experience if you start with the manga or the old anime TV series, which only covered the first major arc of the manga and
The movies seem to be telling the story the TV series covered, both trimmed down a bit and also with elements of the manga added back in that weren't in the original anime. The new movies are also really pretty compared to the TV series, sticking much more closely to the art style of the manga though the 2-D/3-D meshing can be dodgy at times(I've been told it improves in the later movies).
I haven't finished the movies yet, but from what I've seen, if you go with the TV series you'll get a longer telling of the story with some manga elments missing but also with some of the more low key elements expanded or added in. The movies(starting with The Egg of the King) are faster paced, tells the story in a much more constrained amount of time, but adds some manga elements back in. And the animation and art quality gets quite a bump. The secondary cast also gets a bit more attention in the TV series, at least it seems to in comparison to the first movie.
If you start with the manga....you will highly likely detest the main character all the way until somewhere in the third volume.
Also, with the manga, you have Puck. How you feel about Puck is going to be hard to gauge. While I think the relief he provides is totally necessary to get through certain stretches of the story, some of the fourth-wall breakage can be a bit much for some. (most just complain about him not having pants)
Also, "Forces" and "Aria" are two of the best pieces of dark fantasy music ever. :)
Alleran |
Alleran wrote:I often wonder if I'm playing the same game as a lot of you guys...
He only has 774 HP. It does not take a vast amount to one-round that,
At high-end mythic your average Archmage can throw down 900 points of damage. A casually-built Champion with a scythe is capable of ~850 DPR. Anything above that sort of number isn't really worthwhile for most situations because nothing in the game has that much HP anyway. However, it's possible to get over 10,000 DPR if you build for it.
About 500-600 DPR is pretty respectable, and will kill most things that need killing.