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Exactly; if your own location already accepts variance from solar and nominal noon, why not accept a larger variance so that you know that a trip that starts at 1134 and ends at 1445 takes 3 hours and 11 minutes?

I'm willing to compromise on the sexagesimal minute and second, for historical reasons and superior subdivision of hours into even periods. Keeping a working cycle the same length as the solar cycle has psychological advantages as well.

But why would it be a problem for dawn on the east coast to be around 1200 and for daytime businesses to be open 1100-0200?

Scarab Sages Goblin Squad Member

Caldeathe, where do you live? There aren't many places that don't use DST.

Come to think of it, China is probably the largest county by far to use a single time zone. They already have millions of people for whom 1200 is nowhere near noon.

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KarlBob wrote:

Caldeathe, where do you live? There aren't many places that don't use DST.

Come to think of it, China is probably the largest county by far to use a single time zone. They already have millions of people for whom 1200 is nowhere near noon.

Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada. CST year round (So currently MDT)

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...or MST+1 for those few of us down here who also don't switch!

Scarab Sages Goblin Squad Member

Non-switchers Unite!

Arizona (where I live) is a non-switching state. There are a couple of large reservations that do switch, but that's because they extend across state lines, back into DST-land.

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KarlBob wrote:

Caldeathe, where do you live? There aren't many places that don't use DST.

Queensland in Australia doesn't, apparently the extra sunlight fades their curtains or something. Or maybe they just do not like all the extra lawn mowing because the extra hour of sum means it grows more :D

Personally I am all for metric time.

10 hour days with 100 minutes of 100 seconds each would give us a second which is just 15% shorter than our current second and make time math so much easier to do.

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I haven't been keeping my Ptolemy refreshed: How many seconds in a degree?

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Being wrote:
I haven't been keeping my Ptolemy refreshed: How many seconds in a degree?

360 of course, 60 seconds to the minute 60 minutes to the degree. 60 all the way down like the elephants,

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Being wrote:
I haven't been keeping my Ptolemy refreshed: How many seconds in a degree?

Depends on what kind of degree. An Associate's degree takes about 1 year and 9 months if you don't dawdle, so that's 87 million seconds or so. A baccalaureate will obviously take longer.

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KoTC Edam Neadenil wrote:
Being wrote:
I haven't been keeping my Ptolemy refreshed: How many seconds in a degree?
360 of course, 60 seconds to the minute 60 minutes to the degree. 60 all the way down like the elephants,

3,600, isn't it?

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Well, this thread certainly took a 9 o'clock turn.

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KarlBob wrote:

Non-switchers Unite!

Arizona (where I live) is a non-switching state. There are a couple of large reservations that do switch, but that's because they extend across state lines, back into DST-land.

Where abouts in AZ? I might have a fall project in Tucson.

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We're all over the state, from what we've seen so far.

Scarab Sages Goblin Squad Member

Bitter Thorn wrote:
KarlBob wrote:

Non-switchers Unite!

Arizona (where I live) is a non-switching state. There are a couple of large reservations that do switch, but that's because they extend across state lines, back into DST-land.

Where abouts in AZ? I might have a fall project in Tucson.

I'm in Phoenix. Specifically, in Laveen (SW Phoenix).

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KarlBob wrote:
Bitter Thorn wrote:
KarlBob wrote:

Non-switchers Unite!

Arizona (where I live) is a non-switching state. There are a couple of large reservations that do switch, but that's because they extend across state lines, back into DST-land.

Where abouts in AZ? I might have a fall project in Tucson.
I'm in Phoenix. Specifically, in Laveen (SW Phoenix).

Cool

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Nihimon wrote:
KoTC Edam Neadenil wrote:
Being wrote:
I haven't been keeping my Ptolemy refreshed: How many seconds in a degree?
360 of course, 60 seconds to the minute 60 minutes to the degree. 60 all the way down like the elephants,
3,600, isn't it?

aye that be likely true

Though it be odd that something that almost came first be smaller than something which be apparently minute or is it miniscule? Edam be confused now.

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KoTC Edam Neadenil wrote:
Nihimon wrote:
KoTC Edam Neadenil wrote:
Being wrote:
I haven't been keeping my Ptolemy refreshed: How many seconds in a degree?
360 of course, 60 seconds to the minute 60 minutes to the degree. 60 all the way down like the elephants,
3,600, isn't it?

aye that be likely true

Though it be odd that something that almost came first be smaller than something which be apparently minute or is it miniscule? Edam be confused now.

A circle is 360 degrees

a degree is 60 minutes
a minute (of arc) is 60 seconds

so 3600 seconds in a degree, 1296000 seconds in a circle

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KoTC Edam Neadenil wrote:
Nihimon wrote:
KoTC Edam Neadenil wrote:
Being wrote:
I haven't been keeping my Ptolemy refreshed: How many seconds in a degree?
360 of course, 60 seconds to the minute 60 minutes to the degree. 60 all the way down like the elephants,
3,600, isn't it?

aye that be likely true

Though it be odd that something that almost came first be smaller than something which be apparently minute or is it miniscule? Edam be confused now.

The first division was into "primae minutae", the next into "secundae minutae", ie first minutes (= small things) and second minutes.

Within short time (but not minutes) this was shortened to "minutes" and "seconds".

(ie: Blame the users, not the design)

why are we discussing time again?

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Time, Dr. Freeman? Is it really that...time again?

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randomwalker wrote:
why are we discussing time again?

Because we have it.

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To OP,

I would like to offer the services of Forgeholm's Tier 2 Miners to help strip-mine a hex of its resources to help the devs confirm if resource hex depletion/restoration notes are working as of EE3. The more high level gatherers we can get on the same hex the better a chance to see how long it takes to deplete it.

As the most centralized mountain range on the EE map, I recommend the Northern Cragthorns as a good choice for T2 Miners and Dowser with the Emerald Spire & Southern Echo Woods for the T2 Foresters and Scavengers; with Golgotha and the Emerald Lodge as base of operations respectfully.

We would not go empty handed, and are willing to negotiate with the hosting settlements a "participation fee" for sponsoring the event on Zombie Kitten Mountain and the future "superdungeons" area.

There is a business opportunity for everyone, a chance for a big event, and we get to help out the devs; win-win for all. :)

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I wouldn't recommend a strip mining excersice at this stage of the game as it actually could ruin a hex for a very long time.

This is best done on the test server - but might be difficult to organize as I rather gather for real here.

This was a pretty old thread - have we been asked to strip mine by the devs recently?

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@Thod,

Not specifically requested, but it would be a natural continuation of testing we where doing in Alpha. Also, "real world" testing by an active player base is very valuable especially now that the resource distribution has settled down a bit.

I am aware that depleting a hex is bad, and that is part of the exercise. To check the devs "this is what is supposed to happen" numbers with "this is what really is happing" player numbers. Also, I trust the leaders of Golgotha and the Emerald Lodge to know which hex is worth sacrificing for the event, and how to profit off of it. :)

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I'm perfectly happy to sacrifice any of the hexes near Forgeholm for this exercise.

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I think we should try several different spots one, scheduled well in advance, day, with a full reset of everything the following day.

Scarab Sages Goblin Squad Member

Thod wrote:

I wouldn't recommend a strip mining excersice at this stage of the game as it actually could ruin a hex for a very long time.

This is best done on the test server - but might be difficult to organize as I rather gather for real here.

This was a pretty old thread - have we been asked to strip mine by the devs recently?

I forget, did the latest patch fix the "all hexes reset to full values at downtime" issue? As long as that hasn't been fixed, a strip mining trial should be relatively safe.

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It is true that there are a lot of hexes in northern mountains, say (-1,-2 ) which is not too far from Thornkeep. (-1,0 is even closer, but I suspect Guurzak would not wat to volunteer that one.

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