plaidwandering |
not a full build, just getting some thoughts together
half-orc
str 14+2
dex 12
con 14
int 16
wis 12
cha 7
traits: student of philosophy, and ?
race is for the combo of weapon profs and darkvision
no need for cha, with empiricist and trait, diplo is fully int based
where I get unsure is feats, level three is probably a lock on power attack
is it worth using the level 1 and 5 to get to heavy armor? heavy armor + shield extract + mutagen/barksin + ring could add up nicely
only for sure talent is at lvl 5, for study as swift
once you meet level requirements for higher talents, some feats for extra investigator talent may be worth it
Deadmanwalking |
I'd probably focus a bit more on Str over Con and Wis, but that's probably personal bias and what you've got looks solid.
If going Half Orc, grab Fate's Favored as your second Trait and the Sacred Tattoo Racial Trait, for a net of +2 to all Saves. You can get Endurance for free by taking Shaman's Apprentice too, if you like.
And I'd say Medium Armor is definitely worth it at level 1. Heavy Armor? Maybe, you can always wait until level 5 to see. If you go with Shaman's Apprentice as suggested above, you can grab Diehard instead (or in addition)if you like.
Investigator Talents really depend on how combat-focused you want the character to be, but the party will like you a lot more if you grab Infusion.
Deadmanwalking |
wis is really just leftover points from dumping cha(since you can diplo with int)
con, well, this is doing its combat in melee range, you would want less than 14 con?
I'd be willing to go with a 12 for the sake of Str 18. FC bonus in HP of course, and the aforementioned save booster
Still, Str 17 and Con 14 (which you can get by dropping Wis to 10) is probably better, if willing to raise Str with your 4th level level-up point.
plaidwandering |
ended up doing 17/14/12/16/10/7
1st feat: combat reflexes at 1, combines nicely with enlarge or long arms with a long spear
3rd feat: power attack at , talent: mutagen
5th feat: extra talent(sapping offensive*), talent: quick study
7th feat: ??, talent: sickening offensive*
*only on per individual attack
2nd trait I went with armor expert for sporting a mithril breastplate
LessPopMoreFizz |
Empiricist doesn't get Int to Diplomacy, it gets Int to Gather Information using Diplomacy, but not for normal Diplomacy checks. (I'm playing one in Reign of Winter right now)
And the Student of Philosophy trait gives Int to Diplo checks to influence somebody. Between the two, you have Int for all the social uses of social skills. (If you want to Feint or Demoralize, you still need Cha or a different trait.)
Deadmanwalking |
Empiricist doesn't get Int to Diplomacy, it gets Int to Gather Information using Diplomacy, but not for normal Diplomacy checks. (I'm playing one in Reign of Winter right now)
Ah, but Student of Philosophy gives you Int to the non-gathering info uses (as well as to Bluff for lying), so combined with Empiricist you can use it on all Diplomacy rolls, and most Bluff ones that don't involve feinting in combat.
EDIT: Ninja'd! Ah, well.