Investigator & The Varisian Bladed Scarf.


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Sczarni

It's not happening, is it?

Or at least, flicking though several rulebooks and Googling several desperate questions, I'm unable to find reference to the Investigator either A) using exotic weapons or B) able to access either the trait (Varisian Tattoo) or the feat (Exotic weapon proficiency) that would allow him to use the awesome Scarf. (Rise of the Runelords players guide, page 13, legal for Pathfinder Society play (I believe)).

I'm creating my first Pathfinder Society character. Sczarni. Perhaps running before I can walk. But I figure a Varisian character who is essentially an intelligent Rogue should be able to sow blades in to his scarf.

Failing being able to gain proficiency in any way, how useful/useless is the Scarf without it?


Why can't you get the trait?

Regardless, Investigators get feats, just like everybody else, to use on Exotic Weapon Proficiency if they want it.

Sczarni

I've misunderstood the feats / traits rules, clearly. I'm gonna walk away slightly embarrassed. I'll return later with my awesome scarf.

Sczarni

"After skills, determine how many feats your character receives, based on his class and level, and select them from those presented in Chapter 5." - Core Rulebook.

It's taken me a little while to work out how many feats my character receives when there's no mention of them in the class description. I've now found it in the introduction to the class section of the Core Rulebook.

Running before I can walk.


This made me laugh. you get feats every 2 levels, at level 1, at level 3, at level 5 and so on, plus any bonus feats you get from classes or races (cough human cough.) you can take the traits you want, as long as you meet the PFS limit and that they are legit to PFS rules.

So...way to go. Trying my best to be helpful and not to troll.

Sczarni

You did well, Zilfrel. I'll be honest, I was expecting stronger backlash.

Sczarni

Remember with PFS you have to own a copy of the source material... I've shelled out a few bucks for a PDF before just so I could use a single feat from it in organized play.

I found the d20pfsrd website helpful in that they cite the source material the feat/trait/weapon can be found in... I always cross reference that with the list of permitted "additional resources" to be sure it's a legal source...

I know the trait "Varisian Tattoo" grants proficiency in the Bladed Scarf and is found in the Pathfinder Player Companion "Varisia: Birthplace of Legends".

According to the additional resources, this is a legal source.

Welcome to the Forums, and welcome to the Pathfinder RPG!

Grand Lodge

Pathfinder Adventure Path, Rulebook Subscriber

Thomas, no need to be embarrassed, I've been grubbing around in the rules for years and still make mistakes, and ask for clarification.

You have 3 ways you could go:
1. Use a feat to get exotic weapon proficiency
2. Use the trait (probably the best bet)
3. You could be a half-elf and take the alternate racial ability that lets you have exotic weapon proficiency as a free feat (really this is just a variant of "use a feat")

I have almost no system mastery of the new classes yet, expect maybe the hunter, but the Investigator seems like a class that can make good use of having an extra martial feat, so I would use the trait.

Shadow Lodge

Sadly, Sczarni are no longer a valid faction choice.

Sczarni

I've been interested in, but not actively playing, Pathfinder for well over a year. As a result I have an unreasonable amount of PDFs, but mostly skip over the rules and read the background.

I checked the Varisian Tattoo thing out properly, seems I'm mistake. It refers to magic something or another. Seems to be directed towards spell casters. Or at least it does in Rise of the Runelords & Inner Sea World Guide.

However, being a Half-Elf and taking the free trait is the way I'm going I think.

Sczarni isn't that important. Being a bit shifty and Varisian I like the idea of though.

I'll be honest - I'm trying to make late 70s Dr Who.

Sczarni

Work so far

(Edited to make the link a link)

Sczarni

Thomas James Winstanley wrote:


I checked the Varisian Tattoo thing out properly, seems I'm mistake. It refers to magic something or another. Seems to be directed towards spell casters. Or at least it does in Rise of the Runelords & Inner Sea World Guide.
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Welcome to the world of Pathfinder! Paizo has the unfortunate habit of giving distinct and different abilities the same (or similar) names.

The Varisian Tattoo you refer to in the ISWG is a FEAT. The Varisian Tattoo I refer to in Varisia: Birthplace of Legend is a TRAIT.

The trait called Varisian Tattoo gives you proficiency in bladed scarves and starknives.

The Half-Elven ability, Ancestral Arms, is a RACIAL TRAIT, which is different than a RACE TRAIT.

Let's not get started on the half dozen or so DERVISH OF DAWN/DAWNFLOWER DERVISH Archetypes that exist...


Thomas James Winstanley wrote:

Work so far

(Edited to make the link a link)

Rich Parents is not PFS legal. Basically, anything that interacts with money is banned.

Sczarni

Pupsocket. Thank you. But damn it. I had checked that very very long page about legal/non-legal things for PFS. Must have missed it. But in my defence it is very, very long.

Krodjin. I have no words. There are too many words there that are the same. And I have another PDF to purchase.

Sovereign Court

The Varisia booklet is a good read though.


Ascalaphus wrote:
The Varisia booklet is a good read though.

I agree. It's a lot more than "book of gypsies".

Sczarni

Pupsocket wrote:
Ascalaphus wrote:
The Varisia booklet is a good read though.
I agree. It's a lot more than "book of gypsies".

I quite like it as well... I love the centerfold map of Varisia a lot... It alone justifies the purchase price in my opinion. I also like the fact that it has a section at the back that contains Traits and info for various Adventure Campaigns based in Varisia - including what I think is an abridged/abbreviated Shattered Star Players Guide.

Scarab Sages

The one big 'gotcha' is that the Inspired weapon property is only available for weapons on the Investigator's default proficiency list...

and if you care much about combat, you want an Inspired Weapon.

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