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I seriously cannot figure out why pretty much a bunch of new archetypes come out that 1/2 BAB classes like Wizard or Sorc get all of these new archetypes that focus on being a martial fighters.
Like arcanist has an archetype where they get a black blade, or the white haired witch, or so many other things out there.
Some of them do kinda work (The card throwing witch for example) because it becomes a touch attack, but without at least making the BAB 3/4 I don't see the point of trying to do this.
Basically, I'm just very confused on why so many exist, and more seem to keep being made.
I agree. I've never liked this and I have never used any of those abilities that grant me claws and such. To me, it's a waste of an ability since I don't dip into classes for abilities.
Dragon Disciple and Eldritch Knight from what I read somewhere.
Dragon Disciple and Eldritch Knight from what I read somewhere.
Generally though the archetype seem to be very tied to class levels, so going a PrC means you don't really get the benifits of the martial caster archetype.
unless I'm missing something?
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I seriously cannot figure out why pretty much a bunch of new archetypes come out that 1/2 BAB classes like Wizard or Sorc get all of these new archetypes that focus on being a martial fighters.
Like arcanist has an archetype where they get a black blade, or the white haired witch, or so many other things out there.
Some of them do kinda work (The card throwing witch for example) because it becomes a touch attack, but without at least making the BAB 3/4 I don't see the point of trying to do this.
Basically, I'm just very confused on why so many exist, and more seem to keep being made.
Blade Adept the arcanist one funny enough is made to become an eldritch knight, as your black blade actually keep growing related to your caster level, instead of class level, a very significant difference. So yeah arcanist with one level of fighter go into eldritch knight and your black blade will keep growing, while you still get the full spellcasting of the arcanist.
I do believe there is a difference between "personal play preferences" and "Math don't work right."
Like making a spellcasting archetype that focuses on taking damage. *BUT* they don't alter hp of the class or provide methods of mitigating this effect.
The 18 str on the dwarven wizard doesn't matter as much as everything else the class could do. Yes, even in the days of AD+D. If they couldn't get the minimum stats for the class back in AD+D. The math also worked quite a bit better then too for a wizard, because AC didn't go too crazy high, hp was smaller all around.
I've built wizards then too that were melee oriented and worked even. But like I said, the math was there to be able to support it.
in 3.5 I built sorcerers that where grapplers. I had to use the Battle sorc archtype, because well, I needed a higher BAB to accomplish it.
Now we get into things like White Haired witch, who is using a low bab, low feat support, and such. She trades in all of her hexes for things she could do with her hair. And yet, anything with a higher BAB than her, is pretty much going to be immune to her ability. The math and mechanics of it don't quite allow her to do it very well.
I don't see where the Blackblade Arcanist is related to Caster level over Class level.
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Oh wait nevermind there is. Eldtrich Blade, my brain kept skipping over it. Now then, thats pretty awesome there then.