Archetype clarification on ACG


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Ok, I'm sure everyone is in a similar boat as I am while reading the new book, but I got a couple questions about some archetypes may you all can weigh in on. Specifcally the daring champion and exemplar.

Daring Champion: you get the precise strike deed and don't lose challenge. Does your cavalier level count as swashbuckler level for the damage boost of precise strike? If so, combine this with challange for lots of damage. If not, how the damage determined?

Exemplar: You lose unarmed strike, which based on the language in the vanilla class I am interpreting as losing the damage progression of unarmed strikes too. That being the case, Do you still get weapon die increases with close weapons via close weapon mastery, which the archetype doesn't replace? The text on close weapon mastery says you use your unarmed damage of a brawler 4 levels lower, but if you don't get unarmed damage advancement its a dead ability.

The wording is a bit vague, so was wondering if there was a general consencus before I took it to my group. Thanks.

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Daring Champion should count its levels to his damage for precise strike.

Exemplar probably doesn't get the damage increase (and is a badly designed archetype because it leaves in abilities like that).

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That's what I thought. I like the book, but feel it could have benefited from a couple more proofreads. Aside from meaningless typos there's a fair amount of vague language and abilities that do nothing or don't make sense.


I don't know about daring champion...I mean it does say it for the Hooded Champion (ranger archetype). I think we should FAQ this...

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