[PFS] Arcane Bond Crafting Clarification


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Arcane Bond (PFS FAQ):

A character with the arcane bond class feature may create a bond with any item he owns, either magical or mundane, as long as the item falls within the categories permitted by the arcane bond ability (the cost for bonding with a new item still applies). If a caster later wishes to upgrade an existing bonded item, he may do so for the cost (not price) of the final item as listed in the item's statblock.

For items which can be enhanced incrementally (such as weapons or a ring of protection), the caster must meet all prerequisites for the item as outlined in the item crafting rules. For example, a nonmagical bonded dagger can be enchanted to a +1 dagger for 1,000 gp instead of the normal 2,000 gp, but the caster must be at least 5th level (a prerequisite for the Craft Magic Arms and Armor feat). To upgrade the item further to a +2 dagger, the caster must have a caster level of 6 or higher (three times the item's enhancement bonus).

A bonded item that is enhanced must still conform to all the campaign rules for access to and upgrading of magical items. The final and total price of the item (not the cost) is used on the Fame chart to determine whether a caster can apply such an enhancement to a bonded item.

Facts I know:
1) I must be level 7 to modify my ring (due to Forge Ring)
2) I must have enough fame to cover its price (not crafting cost)

My issue comes from this line:

"the caster must meet all prerequisites for the item as outlined in the item crafting rules"

Let's say that I want to craft it into a Ring of Protection +2.

Requirements (Ring of Protection):

Forge Ring, shield of faith, caster must be of a level at least three times the bonus of the ring; Cost 1,000 gp (+1), 4,000 gp (+2), 9,000 gp (+3), 16,000 gp (+4), 25,000 gp (+5)

Okay, so to make it +2, I must be level 6. No issue because of the Fame Requirement.

Q: What about 'Shield of Faith' requirement? As an arcane caster, I do not have this spell. In PFS, can I pay for Spellcasting service 1/day? Do I need to buy as many level 1 scrolls of this (based on my UMD rolls) to cover my days of crafting? Or, am I simply banned, as an arcane caster, from ever crafting this item?

I know I could do either the scrolls or spellcasting services in normal play, but can I do this in PFS?

Grand Lodge 5/5

Pathfinder Starfinder Adventure Path, Starfinder Society Subscriber

In normal play you could also just add 5 to the crafting DC, for the missing component.

Magic Item Creation snippet:

The DC to create a magic item increases by +5 for each prerequisite the caster does not meet. The only exception to this is the requisite item creation feat, which is mandatory.
Magic item creation

The question then also is this allowed in Society Play for the Arcane Bonded item?

Furthermore, if you have a pathfinder with the correct spell on his list at your table can you ask him to help you out after the adventure under the watchful eye of the GM?

Sczarni 5/5 5/55/5 ***

FYI, Fearspect, the PFS General Discussion forum is the better place to ask PFS-specific questions. The majority of people that play Pathfinder don't play PFS, and aren't familiar with the intricacies of the campaign or its rules.

Posters often get the two forums confused, asking general rules questions over there, and PFS rules questions here, but the two forums serve different functions. I've flagged both of your threads to be moved to the appropriate forum, and you're more likely to get the answers you seek over there.


... I thought that PFS disallowed crafting? Or have they changed it?

Grand Lodge 4/5

Lifat wrote:
... I thought that PFS disallowed crafting? Or have they changed it?

PFS allows crafting in a couple of instances, one of which is an Arcane Bonded item.


Jeff Merola wrote:
Lifat wrote:
... I thought that PFS disallowed crafting? Or have they changed it?
PFS allows crafting in a couple of instances, one of which is an Arcane Bonded item.

Ahhh! Fair enouh. Didn't know that... Then again, I have yet to make a character for PFS.

In any case, I don't have any real answer.

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