fretgod99 |
And raise dead won't bring you back.
of course one has to ask what kind of GM is hitting first level characters with neg level effects.
Is there some provision where you can like also do an immediate casting of Restoration or whatever to remove the negative level or am I thinking of something else?
LeesusFreak |
LazarX wrote:Is there some provision where you can like also do an immediate casting of Restoration or whatever to remove the negative level or am I thinking of something else?And raise dead won't bring you back.
of course one has to ask what kind of GM is hitting first level characters with neg level effects.
I'm guessing something else, because RAW is pretty flat that as soon as you take the effect, if your effective level falls to 0, you outright die. Like dying from having 0 CON (not sure if you can be brought back by any caveats from that, though).
fretgod99 |
fretgod99 wrote:I'm guessing something else, because RAW is pretty flat that as soon as you take the effect, if your effective level falls to 0, you outright die. Like dying from having 0 CON (not sure if you can be brought back by any caveats from that, though).LazarX wrote:Is there some provision where you can like also do an immediate casting of Restoration or whatever to remove the negative level or am I thinking of something else?And raise dead won't bring you back.
of course one has to ask what kind of GM is hitting first level characters with neg level effects.
I meant immediately casting Restoration right after like Raise Dead or whatever.
LeesusFreak |
LeesusFreak wrote:I meant immediately casting Restoration right after like Raise Dead or whatever.fretgod99 wrote:I'm guessing something else, because RAW is pretty flat that as soon as you take the effect, if your effective level falls to 0, you outright die. Like dying from having 0 CON (not sure if you can be brought back by any caveats from that, though).LazarX wrote:Is there some provision where you can like also do an immediate casting of Restoration or whatever to remove the negative level or am I thinking of something else?And raise dead won't bring you back.
of course one has to ask what kind of GM is hitting first level characters with neg level effects.
Oh, no, yeah, you're right, and I'm wrong!
It does seem like it takes two clerics to do it, though, since Restoration has a casting time of 1 minute, and the spell needs to take place the round after the creature is revived.
LazarX |
LazarX wrote:Is there some provision where you can like also do an immediate casting of Restoration or whatever to remove the negative level or am I thinking of something else?And raise dead won't bring you back.
of course one has to ask what kind of GM is hitting first level characters with neg level effects.
Getting negative levels equal or greater than your character levels means Go Strictly To Dead, do not pass stabilization checks, do not get Breath of Life, you are officially DECEASED.
Finlanderboy |
fretgod99 wrote:Getting negative levels equal or greater than your character levels means Go Strictly To Dead, do not pass stabilization checks, do not get Breath of Life, you are officially DECEASED.LazarX wrote:Is there some provision where you can like also do an immediate casting of Restoration or whatever to remove the negative level or am I thinking of something else?And raise dead won't bring you back.
of course one has to ask what kind of GM is hitting first level characters with neg level effects.
And possibly the spawn of another undead creature.
fretgod99 |
fretgod99 wrote:Getting negative levels equal or greater than your character levels means Go Strictly To Dead, do not pass stabilization checks, do not get Breath of Life, you are officially DECEASED.LazarX wrote:Is there some provision where you can like also do an immediate casting of Restoration or whatever to remove the negative level or am I thinking of something else?And raise dead won't bring you back.
of course one has to ask what kind of GM is hitting first level characters with neg level effects.
Poor wording on my part. See this post.
Diego Rossi |
fretgod99 wrote:LeesusFreak wrote:I meant immediately casting Restoration right after like Raise Dead or whatever.fretgod99 wrote:I'm guessing something else, because RAW is pretty flat that as soon as you take the effect, if your effective level falls to 0, you outright die. Like dying from having 0 CON (not sure if you can be brought back by any caveats from that, though).LazarX wrote:Is there some provision where you can like also do an immediate casting of Restoration or whatever to remove the negative level or am I thinking of something else?And raise dead won't bring you back.
of course one has to ask what kind of GM is hitting first level characters with neg level effects.
Oh, no, yeah, you're right, and I'm wrong!
It does seem like it takes two clerics to do it, though, since Restoration has a casting time of 1 minute, and the spell needs to take place the round after the creature is revived.
It has been changed to 3 rounds, but still a long time. Restoration +raise dead require 2 clerics or some some nifty maneuver with UMD.
kinevon |
Lamontius wrote:♫ sommmmeone playyyyyed Thorrrrrnkeeeeeep ♫I was just about to say this. That encounter is brutal. When I ran it, I made sure the entire party was already level 2.
Heh. I have run this module level 6 times, and only hit one PC once in that encounter. And that was the time it was a 2nd level PC, too.
Rarely, and if anyone does this, they deserve what they get, will it be able to stand up, 5' step, and attack. If you take your PC that close to a potential enemy, without moving into threatening, you deserve what you get.
Also note that, at a +4 to hit, it isn't going to be hitting well to begin with, most martials, who should be the ones closest to it, are going to have ACs at 16 or higher, so less than a 50% hit chance, even before you add in prone penalties.
The Shadow in Thornkeep is usually much more dangerous, for multiple reasons, despite the lower CR rating. And my TPK for that module came from the fungal crickets.
Bigdaddyjug |
Bigdaddyjug wrote:Lamontius wrote:♫ sommmmeone playyyyyed Thorrrrrnkeeeeeep ♫I was just about to say this. That encounter is brutal. When I ran it, I made sure the entire party was already level 2.Heh. I have run this module level 6 times, and only hit one PC once in that encounter. And that was the time it was a 2nd level PC, too.
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kinevon |
kinevon wrote:** spoiler omitted **Bigdaddyjug wrote:Lamontius wrote:♫ sommmmeone playyyyyed Thorrrrrnkeeeeeep ♫I was just about to say this. That encounter is brutal. When I ran it, I made sure the entire party was already level 2.Heh. I have run this module level 6 times, and only hit one PC once in that encounter. And that was the time it was a 2nd level PC, too.
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Last time I ran it, and another less than effective in combat party, and the crickets decided that hunger was king, and dragged off the dying animal companion for their lunch. That let the party regroup, and rescue the companion from death at the very last second.