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Brew Bird wrote:

I found what seems to be an error in the ACG, one I'm not sure has been mentioned anywhere yet. The Shaman Wind Spirit's "True Spirit" ability allows you to turn into a lightning elemental, as elemental body IV. Was this supposed to be air elemental?

As it currently stands, elemental body only has rules for fire/water/earth/air elemental forms, nothing for a lightning elemental.

Yes, there is a lightning elemental in Pathfinder.

Lightning Elemental (scroll down to it)


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Barachiel Shina wrote:
Brew Bird wrote:

I found what seems to be an error in the ACG, one I'm not sure has been mentioned anywhere yet. The Shaman Wind Spirit's "True Spirit" ability allows you to turn into a lightning elemental, as elemental body IV. Was this supposed to be air elemental?

As it currently stands, elemental body only has rules for fire/water/earth/air elemental forms, nothing for a lightning elemental.

Yes, there is a lightning elemental in Pathfinder.

Lightning Elemental (scroll down to it)

Yes, but elemental body can't turn you into one. Which is certainly something I would like changed, or at introduce the quasielemental body line of spells.


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errata whats errata nothing whats errata with you


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nobody knows the housecalls i've made
nobody knows, but jesus


So now we're almost a month or less away from the Errata.


I'd be thoroughly shocked if they didn't debut it AT GenCon with the second printing for more delicious cash money.


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Ashram wrote:
I'd be thoroughly shocked if they didn't debut it AT GenCon with the second printing for more delicious cash money.

When I saw the "I just turned something in for editting" from Jason the other day I was all SQUEEEEEEK!

And then it was a playtest for a single class, that's incredibly hokey and I was all "Meh"

and built character anyway because well do I even need to explain?


Mongrel Mage archetype requires errata:

Quote:
At 7th level, when a mongrel mage is activating her selected bloodline, the mongrel mage can instead spend 3 points from her mongrel reservoir, allowing her to use the bloodline's 1st-, 3rd-, and 7th-level powers as well as its bloodline arcana at her full sorcerer level for a number of rounds equal to her Charisma bonus.

7th level bloodline powers do not exist, which makes this line utterly useless by RAW, seeing as it does the same as the 3rd level Mongrel Mage power except it costs an extra reservoir point. It is safe to assume that 9th level was meant instead of 7th.


20 days to go.


Secret Wizard wrote:
20 days to go.

The 'official' release date was August 6, 2014 so if they wait to the last moment they'd have until August 5, 2015.

Grand Lodge

Except Erik said before Gencon. And before Gencon is before then.


claudekennilol wrote:
Except Erik said before Gencon. And before Gencon is before then.

I missed that then. The only thing I recalled was them saying a year wouldn't go by without errata. And isn't gencon july 30-august 2? That isn't 20 days.


graystone wrote:
claudekennilol wrote:
Except Erik said before Gencon. And before Gencon is before then.
I missed that then. The only thing I recalled was them saying a year wouldn't go by without errata. And isn't gencon july 30-august 2? That isn't 20 days.

urrite, read it was on july 20th somewhere


We may have to accept that the "before ..." deadline is a bit iffy. Not to say it won't drop before I finish typing this post, but it's not as if things can't get out of even Erik's control.

Shadow Lodge

Personally, I don't even care if it's a tad bit late (within reason). I certainly want it, and I also certainly want it soon rather than later. But, simply knowing a general time frame, even if it's off a week or even a month, goes a long way.


Secret Wizard wrote:
graystone wrote:
claudekennilol wrote:
Except Erik said before Gencon. And before Gencon is before then.
I missed that then. The only thing I recalled was them saying a year wouldn't go by without errata. And isn't gencon july 30-august 2? That isn't 20 days.

urrite, read it was on july 20th somewhere

It's cool. I'd missed the whole Gencon thing altogether. I'm more than happy to hear the expected date is sooner than I thought. ;)

Melkiador, DM Beckett: I was HOPING we'd see the 'sooner' they'd talked about. It's looking like we're going to have a photo-finish though. :P

As to 'deadline is a bit iffy': It may be, but the longer it's drawn out, the more annoyed I get. It turning from months to years just puts it at another level for IMO. ;)

Silver Crusade

<Link>, for reference.

Erik Mona wrote:

I can say with authority and certainty that it will not be a full year from the book's publication.

So there you have it. A window.

Some time between the end of PaizoCon and the beginning of Gen Con.

For sure.

And <here> is what Mark said a couple days ago.

Mark Seifter wrote:
Actually today at the Monday meeting, there was a segment where the editors talked about the ACG errata in a way that sounded like they're quite close, which is the last I'd heard of it for a while, so that's very encouraging (there are a few steps after the editors, but it seems unlikely those would be a problem for releasing by Gencon).


Joe M. wrote:

<Link>, for reference.

Erik Mona wrote:

I can say with authority and certainty that it will not be a full year from the book's publication.

So there you have it. A window.

Some time between the end of PaizoCon and the beginning of Gen Con.

For sure.

And <here> is what Mark said a couple days ago.

Mark Seifter wrote:
Actually today at the Monday meeting, there was a segment where the editors talked about the ACG errata in a way that sounded like they're quite close, which is the last I'd heard of it for a while, so that's very encouraging (there are a few steps after the editors, but it seems unlikely those would be a problem for releasing by Gencon).

So before the start of Gencon on july 30th. I'll put it on my calendar.


Errata are you there its me Margaret


Advanced Class Guide has been sent to the printers.

Jessica Price wrote:
Yep, but it went to the printer fairly recently, so we don't have it yet.

Silver Crusade

Tels wrote:

Advanced Class Guide has been sent to the printers.

Jessica Price wrote:
Yep, but it went to the printer fairly recently, so we don't have it yet.

I came to the thread to share this, but you beat me to it! :-)

Anyway, exciting news. Sounds like we're going to get that errata (and those updated pdfs) soon!


Great to hear!


Woo hoo! My Spell Warrior Skald will be excited to be able to use the rage power he gains at level 3! ;-)


So I guess there wasn't any change in policy on this book after all. No errata unless / until a second printing is required.

Liberty's Edge

It would be more appropriate to say that the book sold out so fast that by the time the errata was ready the issue of the policy was moot.

Designer

graywulfe wrote:
It would be more appropriate to say that the book sold out so fast that by the time the errata was ready the issue of the policy was moot.

I believe that is indeed what happened. Internally, I heard that the errata were close and coming out soon before the point when I heard that we sold out the first printing.

Silver Crusade

Mark Seifter wrote:
graywulfe wrote:
It would be more appropriate to say that the book sold out so fast that by the time the errata was ready the issue of the policy was moot.
I believe that is indeed what happened. Internally, I heard that the errata were close and coming out soon before the point when I heard that we sold out the first printing.

Yeah, that tracks <what Erik guessed back in October>, which as I recall (and I've followed this pretty closely) is the only time he explicitly answered the "can we have errata before the second printing" request—with a "looks like we won't have to."

Erik Mona wrote:
Gorbacz wrote:
Howzabout making an exception to the rule and releasing ACG errata despite not having to reprint the book yet? While I adore much of the content, it could certainly do with an update, not the least to make sure one can read a thread about ACG without having to wade through "I felt sexually assaulted by this book" comments from our resident, erm, "passionate gamers"?

We'll have an ACG errata sooner rather than later. The book has almost sold through its first print run, so we won't even need to do it "early."

However, in the meantime I am having the entire book re-proofed to catch as many errors as we can. I know there is an unacceptably high number of errors that involve rules elements, but the book has more typos and other sloppiness in simple running text than I'm comfortable with, and I want to make sure we fix before we reprint. Some of that stuff will reveal more errata material, I suspect.

So, soon.

Designer

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Joe M. wrote:
Mark Seifter wrote:
graywulfe wrote:
It would be more appropriate to say that the book sold out so fast that by the time the errata was ready the issue of the policy was moot.
I believe that is indeed what happened. Internally, I heard that the errata were close and coming out soon before the point when I heard that we sold out the first printing.

Yeah, that tracks <what Erik guessed back in October>, which as I recall (and I've followed this pretty closely) is the only time he explicitly answered the "can we have errata before the second printing" request—with a "looks like we won't have to."

Erik Mona wrote:
Gorbacz wrote:
Howzabout making an exception to the rule and releasing ACG errata despite not having to reprint the book yet? While I adore much of the content, it could certainly do with an update, not the least to make sure one can read a thread about ACG without having to wade through "I felt sexually assaulted by this book" comments from our resident, erm, "passionate gamers"?

We'll have an ACG errata sooner rather than later. The book has almost sold through its first print run, so we won't even need to do it "early."

However, in the meantime I am having the entire book re-proofed to catch as many errors as we can. I know there is an unacceptably high number of errors that involve rules elements, but the book has more typos and other sloppiness in simple running text than I'm comfortable with, and I want to make sure we fix before we reprint. Some of that stuff will reveal more errata material, I suspect.

So, soon.

Yup! It's worth noting that we not only did massive passes ourselves but also went to outside editors who put in a ridiculous number of hours. By which I mean, when I volunteered to help our editors figure out whether the outside editors' potential edits were correct, one chapters came back with over 1000 notes. For just that chapter. Now, a lot of those were false alarms or were notes over wording issues that we like to keep consistent but you guys actually almost never notice, but still, that's a lot to check over. And our editors then had to check through all of those to find the ones that were correct. This all happened after I had posted that the Design Team had gone and found all our development errors.


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moar previewz plox

feed me

feed us

ALSO: The errata process should perhaps change in a way to allow non-core material to get fixed more expediently, especially considering we live in a mainly digital age... I know the Antipaladin Fearmonger archetype is not likely to be ever fixed even if one of it's main features is absolutely borked. I wish it were easier to patch those up.


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Problem with the campaign setting material is that normally, if there's a problem with it, Paizo will just ignore it until they're ready to reprint it into another book, and even then they MIGHT fix it. Core material only gets fixes because they reprint them fairly regularly.


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Ashram wrote:
Problem with the campaign setting material is that normally, if there's a problem with it, Paizo will just ignore it until they're ready to reprint it into another book, and even then they MIGHT fix it. Core material only gets fixes because they reprint them fairly regularly.

There are other reasons...

Silver Crusade

Mark Seifter wrote:
Yup! It's worth noting that we not only did massive passes ourselves but also went to outside editors who put in a ridiculous number of hours. By which I mean, when I volunteered to help our editors figure out whether the outside editors' potential edits were correct, one chapters came back with over 1000 notes. For just that chapter. Now, a lot of those were false alarms or were notes over wording issues that we like to keep consistent but you guys actually almost never notice, but still, that's a lot to check over. And our editors then had to check through all of those to find the ones that were correct. This all happened after I had posted that the Design Team had gone and found all our development errors.

Neat! Looking forward to the new PDF. :-)

Grand Lodge

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Does this mean we're still on track to see the errata before GenCon/July 30?


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Still betting money that it will officially come out AT GenCon.


Ashram wrote:
Still betting money that it will officially come out AT GenCon.

Well we've been promised "Some time between the end of PaizoCon and the beginning of Gen Con." "For sure."

Coming out AT Gen Con would be after what was promised.

Shadow Lodge

My understanding was that it would very specifically not be coming out at Gencon also, just because everyone would have far too much to do.

Designer

DM Beckett wrote:
My understanding was that it would very specifically not be coming out at Gencon also, just because everyone would have far too much to do.

Frankly, I think it would be a bad idea for it to come out at Gencon also because we will all be at Gencon and unable to respond to you guys if questions arise, as they likely will, and then there will be roughly a 100% chance that at least one poster will read a conspiracy into the lack of response (now that I posted this, that chance is still very high, so if they do come out at Gencon or just baaarely before, let's all look to see if it happens). However, it is the case that "Between X and Y" can be either inclusive or exclusive in English. It's why we use [ ] or ( ) in math!

Shadow Lodge

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Don't get me wrong, I want it asap, but at the same time, waiting an extra week or so isn't going to kill anyone, and things happen no one could expect.


Mark Seifter wrote:
DM Beckett wrote:
My understanding was that it would very specifically not be coming out at Gencon also, just because everyone would have far too much to do.
Frankly, I think it would be a bad idea for it to come out at Gencon also because we will all be at Gencon and unable to respond to you guys if questions arise, as they likely will, and then there will be roughly a 100% chance that at least one poster will read a conspiracy into the lack of response (now that I posted this, that chance is still very high, so if they do come out at Gencon or just baaarely before, let's all look to see if it happens). However, it is the case that "Between X and Y" can be either inclusive or exclusive in English. It's why we use [ ] or ( ) in math!

True on math but the end point is "beginning of Gen Con" not gencon as a whole. So it'd have to come out moments after opening to be correct. ;)

Designer

graystone wrote:
Mark Seifter wrote:
DM Beckett wrote:
My understanding was that it would very specifically not be coming out at Gencon also, just because everyone would have far too much to do.
Frankly, I think it would be a bad idea for it to come out at Gencon also because we will all be at Gencon and unable to respond to you guys if questions arise, as they likely will, and then there will be roughly a 100% chance that at least one poster will read a conspiracy into the lack of response (now that I posted this, that chance is still very high, so if they do come out at Gencon or just baaarely before, let's all look to see if it happens). However, it is the case that "Between X and Y" can be either inclusive or exclusive in English. It's why we use [ ] or ( ) in math!
True on math but the end point is "beginning of Gen Con" not gencon as a whole. So it'd have to come out moments after opening to be correct. ;)

Yup, beginning of Gencon was indeed the stated endpoint. To be honest, I think it would be a bigger challenge to release it later than that but before the end of Gencon) than it would be to release it before that, from how many people would be out of the office alone.

Shadow Lodge

Do you know of hand on PFS's plans to handle any changes for characters?

edit: that is if there are plans, not what they are.


Yep, that makes sense Mark. I think about at least a week before Gen Con would be ideal. There will be a lot to digest and that'd give some time for Q&A before you guys escape your cages and move to Indianapolis for a week. ;)

The Exchange

So it's gone to the printers but the PDF isn't available yet is that right?

Surely if you're printing a new batch you should be able to put a date on it now?

Paizo Employee Publisher, Chief Creative Officer

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Ashram wrote:
Still betting money that it will officially come out AT GenCon.

How much money are you betting, and can I get in on that action?

Paizo Employee Publisher, Chief Creative Officer

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Rushley son of Halum wrote:

So it's gone to the printers but the PDF isn't available yet is that right?

Surely if you're printing a new batch you should be able to put a date on it now?

I know, right?

Must be any day, now!


Erik Mona wrote:
Ashram wrote:
Still betting money that it will officially come out AT GenCon.
How much money are you betting, and can I get in on that action?

Betting against the house always has lousy odds. ;)

Contributor

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Erik Mona wrote:
Ashram wrote:
Still betting money that it will officially come out AT GenCon.
How much money are you betting, and can I get in on that action?

This one time, at the PaizoCon 2015 store...

Silver Crusade

Erik Mona wrote:
Ashram wrote:
Still betting money that it will officially come out AT GenCon.
How much money are you betting, and can I get in on that action?
Erik Mona wrote:
Rushley son of Halum wrote:

So it's gone to the printers but the PDF isn't available yet is that right?

Surely if you're printing a new batch you should be able to put a date on it now?

I know, right?

Must be any day, now!

:-D


I refresh and I refresh but the FAQ does not come out...*twitch*

Silver Crusade

Just putting <this> here so everyone's on the same page.

Erik Mona wrote:

The errata is coming BEFORE Gen Con, as I said it would.

Thanks for your patience, everyone. I know this one has been a long time coming.

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