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He doesn't always write a backstory, but when he does, it gives him an artifact.


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He doesn't always meta-game, but when he does, you know he read the adventure.


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He doesn't always hit on your real life girlfriend "in character", but when he does, you will be getting yelled at about it the rest of the week.


Hama wrote:
I have a long standing rule. No shower? No game.

Do I really need to take a shower, right after having taken a bath?

*ducks*

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Midnight_Angel wrote:
Hama wrote:
I have a long standing rule. No shower? No game.

Do I really need to take a shower, right after having taken a bath?

*ducks*

No, in that instance, I think I can allow myself to be more lenient.

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Hama wrote:

A guy who keeps insisting that I let him play a kitsune summoner (I don't do anthropomorphic animals or summoners in my setting)

And brings a kitsune summoner to the game and then whines and complains because he has to roll up a new character.

You've been spying on our PFS Lodge haven't you?

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No. I don't have one of those anywhere near me. For miles and miles and hundreds of miles. Where can one find a PFS lodge in Europe?

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There appears to be events in Germany, Italy, Portugal, and Spain. I don't think those are anywhere near you unless I miss my guess.

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Italy is about a 16 hour drive away, Germany somewhere around that time too. Spain and Portugal...at least 20-24 hours. Since I can't splurge for a plane.

Plus, The only language sans English and Serbian I speak is German, and that is pretty lousy.


Hama wrote:

Italy is about a 16 hour drive away, Germany somewhere around that time too. Spain and Portugal...at least 20-24 hours. Since I can't splurge for a plane.

Plus, The only language sans English and Serbian I speak is German, and that is pretty lousy.

Looks like closest to Serbia is Osijek in Croatia...there's at least a Venture Lieutenant there, so assuming they are rounding something up. Still probably too far away, and you seem to enjoy a more independent game from what I've seen of your posts, but PFS is closer than you think ;)

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I was honestly thinking of starting a lodge here in Serbia, but I don't think there would be that many players, and I don't really have the time, unfortunately.


Midnight_Angel wrote:
Hama wrote:
I have a long standing rule. No shower? No game.

Do I really need to take a shower, right after having taken a bath?

*ducks*

I don't often take baths, but when I do, I take a shower right after.

Have you seen used bathwater? It's so ... EWWW!!!

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downerbeautiful wrote:
Midnight_Angel wrote:
Hama wrote:
I have a long standing rule. No shower? No game.

Do I really need to take a shower, right after having taken a bath?

*ducks*

I don't often take baths, but when I do, I take a shower right after.

Have you seen used bathwater? It's so ... EWWW!!!

HaHa, yeah you really should at least take a navy shower beofre a bath.


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Hama wrote:

A guy who keeps insisting that I let him play a kitsune summoner (I don't do anthropomorphic animals or summoners in my setting)

And brings a kitsune summoner to the game and then whines and complains because he has to roll up a new character.

I have zero tolerance for the furry aspect of this community. I've never had to play with someone like this but I think the second I heard a guy even remotely entertained the idea of playing an anthropomorphic animal I would tell him not to re-roll but to look for a different group.

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He's just a manga freak.

Anyway, a guy who after I show enthusiasm for my game in which I am introducing him to tells me to lay off the caffeine and curb my enthusiasm because I'm not 10.

Never had a player who was invited to the game but didn't get to play before. Now I can strike that off my list of aholes.


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KestrelZ wrote:
He pays more attention to his iPhone app game than any session he has been in, combined.

OMG! That one drives me absolutely bonkers!

Here's another:

Always plays a rogue who always steals from the party, doesn't understand why the other players get irritated.

I feel as though you have been in my group both of those are a problem.


He doesn't always bring his own customized character sheets, but when he does its so complicated and disorganized, no one else can interpret the layout or find any useful information quickly, including him.


As soon as he's introduced to you he starts off on a rant about TSR ripped off his ideas and artwork (never mind that he would've been 8 at the time)and how he actually designed most of the mechs used in Riftwar. Again, he'd have been about 8. I actually encountered this guy in a bookstore many years ago. He also insisted he be called by his "D&D name", the "Black Unicorn".


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Zolanoteph wrote:
Hama wrote:

A guy who keeps insisting that I let him play a kitsune summoner (I don't do anthropomorphic animals or summoners in my setting)

And brings a kitsune summoner to the game and then whines and complains because he has to roll up a new character.
I have zero tolerance for the furry aspect of this community. I've never had to play with someone like this but I think the second I heard a guy even remotely entertained the idea of playing an anthropomorphic animal I would tell him not to re-roll but to look for a different group.

You would not like my group's homebrew setting.


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Not my story, but an old gm I used to have. The setting Gencon in the early 90's. The system AD&D, a dm was setting up his table and knew he was going to have a few openings so my old dm and his buddy ask if they can get into the game. Sure thing, here are the character creation rules, go nuts. Fairly high level and high powered.

Old dm: A dwarven fighter with a ring of vampirism and the axe that gives an extra attack every round.

His buddy: A wizard/cleric that's sole purpose was to buff the fighter.

The Most Annoying Gamer in the World: Atticus Evil, some kind of wizard who was some flavor of evil without it written on his sheet. Throughout the game he kept trying to get the party killed, speaking in third person, and proclaiming the greatness of Atticus Evil saying things like he's changed his name to Atticus Evil in RL or his License Plate # was something like Atcs Evl.

After the third time this guy tried to kill the party old dm asked the person running if he could kill this clearly evil a**clown. The person running said no. Okay go a little further and the guy does it again pushing the wizard/cleric into a pit with a spell he "misplaced." Old dm looks at the man running who says "go for it." Two rounds later Atticus Evil lay dead on the floor, and the player stormed from the gaming hall yelling things like "You can't kill the great Atticus Evil! Atticus Evil shall have his revenge!" Never heard from or of the guy since.

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DungeonmasterCal wrote:
As soon as he's introduced to you he starts off on a rant about TSR ripped off his ideas and artwork (never mind that he would've been 8 at the time)and how he actually designed most of the mechs used in Riftwar. Again, he'd have been about 8. I actually encountered this guy in a bookstore many years ago. He also insisted he be called by his "D&D name", the "Black Unicorn".

"And tell me I'm pretty!"

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haruhiko88 wrote:
Never heard from or of the guy since.

Don't worry - I'm sure he made the news somewhere.

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Hama wrote:


Anyway, a guy who after I show enthusiasm for my game in which I am introducing him to tells me to lay off the caffeine and curb my enthusiasm because I'm not 10
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You think it would be a bonus to some that the person running the game is enthusiastic about it. If happened to a friend of mine as well. He took booted the player out of the game.

Annoying thing by players I have come across.

One who play casters yet by level 5 still don't know any spells by heart. Or uses a cheat sheet. I can understand not memorizing certain spells . How hard is it to remember what Bless dies.

The restrictive DM turned player who wants access to anything and everything in the books. Then when one refuses something complains about it.

Players who channel their inner male chauvinist mysognustic self through their characters at the table. Nothing runic a fans more than seeing a player make lewd, rude comments towards female npcs or players. Had two in my games over theocrats booted them out as soon as that BS began.

Players who ignore any advice at the table. Then when bad things happen get angry and lash out at players. Had his happen in a game two weeks ago. A player lost 11 hp to a trap. Instead of saying " I need to he healed" went on and his character died. Began to pull a fit at the table. Which the DM stopped finally and very grudgingly admitted he screwed up.

Players who make characters unsuitable to the campaign at hand then get mad at both the players and DM when he or she can't do anything. If it's a hack and slash style of game told upfront about it why make a character built only for social encounters who can't hit broadside of barn.

Is told writing game notes is a must to join g the group. Then complains, whines, moans and tries to weasel his way out if doing them.


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Zolanoteph wrote:
Hama wrote:

A guy who keeps insisting that I let him play a kitsune summoner (I don't do anthropomorphic animals or summoners in my setting)

And brings a kitsune summoner to the game and then whines and complains because he has to roll up a new character.
I have zero tolerance for the furry aspect of this community. I've never had to play with someone like this but I think the second I heard a guy even remotely entertained the idea of playing an anthropomorphic animal I would tell him not to re-roll but to look for a different group.

No anthropomorphic animals?

So no lizardmen? Grippli? Wolfweres? Boggards? Kua-Toa? Ibixians, minotaurs or Assweres?

Anthropomorphism is pretty huge in scope, and the sentient animal-monster-humanoids in D&D would make a very long list.


DM: "Make an attack roll."

Most Annoying Player: "What die do I roll for that?"

After playing for several years, this player still can't be bothered to learn how to actually play the game.

DM: *just spent 10 minutes patiently explaining how to make an attack roll and pointing out where all the pertinent information is on the custom, simplified character sheet made especially for this player*

Most Annoying Player: "Oh, just do it for me!"


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DM Under The Bridge wrote:
Zolanoteph wrote:
Hama wrote:

A guy who keeps insisting that I let him play a kitsune summoner (I don't do anthropomorphic animals or summoners in my setting)

And brings a kitsune summoner to the game and then whines and complains because he has to roll up a new character.
I have zero tolerance for the furry aspect of this community. I've never had to play with someone like this but I think the second I heard a guy even remotely entertained the idea of playing an anthropomorphic animal I would tell him not to re-roll but to look for a different group.

No anthropomorphic animals?

So no lizardmen? Grippli? Wolfweres? Boggards? Kua-Toa? Ibixians, minotaurs or Assweres?

Anthropomorphism is pretty huge in scope, and the sentient animal-monster-humanoids in D&D would make a very long list.

This also means that the Agathian celestial race gets completely discontinued, and Nirvana becomes empty.


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Issac Daneil wrote:
DM Under The Bridge wrote:
Zolanoteph wrote:
Hama wrote:

A guy who keeps insisting that I let him play a kitsune summoner (I don't do anthropomorphic animals or summoners in my setting)

And brings a kitsune summoner to the game and then whines and complains because he has to roll up a new character.
I have zero tolerance for the furry aspect of this community. I've never had to play with someone like this but I think the second I heard a guy even remotely entertained the idea of playing an anthropomorphic animal I would tell him not to re-roll but to look for a different group.

No anthropomorphic animals?

So no lizardmen? Grippli? Wolfweres? Boggards? Kua-Toa? Ibixians, minotaurs or Assweres?

Anthropomorphism is pretty huge in scope, and the sentient animal-monster-humanoids in D&D would make a very long list.

This also means that the Agathian celestial race gets completely discontinued, and Nirvana becomes empty.

And where do you draw the line? Do serpentfolk/yuan-ti get ditched because they're snake-people? If so, do you also ditch mariliths and nagas? If not, why not?

If catfolk go for being cat-people, do you ditch sphinxes and lamiae? If not, why not?

If tengu go for being bird-people, do you ditch sirens and harpies? If not, why not?

Or is it an issue of "antho-critters are okay as monsters for the party to kill, but damn you if you ever think to play one!"?


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I honestly dont get the ambivalence towards animalistic races, havent you been watching cartoons for the last since they were invented? its fun to play as crazy off the wall cartoon characters:)


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Orthos wrote:
Issac Daneil wrote:
DM Under The Bridge wrote:
Zolanoteph wrote:
Hama wrote:

A guy who keeps insisting that I let him play a kitsune summoner (I don't do anthropomorphic animals or summoners in my setting)

And brings a kitsune summoner to the game and then whines and complains because he has to roll up a new character.
I have zero tolerance for the furry aspect of this community. I've never had to play with someone like this but I think the second I heard a guy even remotely entertained the idea of playing an anthropomorphic animal I would tell him not to re-roll but to look for a different group.

No anthropomorphic animals?

So no lizardmen? Grippli? Wolfweres? Boggards? Kua-Toa? Ibixians, minotaurs or Assweres?

Anthropomorphism is pretty huge in scope, and the sentient animal-monster-humanoids in D&D would make a very long list.

This also means that the Agathian celestial race gets completely discontinued, and Nirvana becomes empty.

And where do you draw the line? Do serpentfolk/yuan-ti get ditched because they're snake-people? If so, do you also ditch mariliths and nagas? If not, why not?

If catfolk go for being cat-people, do you ditch sphinxes and lamiae? If not, why not?

If tengu go for being bird-people, do you ditch sirens and harpies? If not, why not?

Or is it an issue of "antho-critters are okay as monsters for the party to kill, but damn you if you ever think to play one!"?

For me, this. I'm much more straight-laced and conservative in my fantasy sword/sorcery than most, and I know it.

If you want that at your table, more power to you. Unless that's the only option given, I probably won't create a character like that, but would still join in and play none the less without fuss.

But if I ask, or end up stating, that such are not allowed as PC's at mine I expect the same respect.

Everyone has a preference to how/what they play. It's not right or wrong, it's just a preference. However, at the end of the day, someone has to make a call for a specific game world and what is and is not present. That ends up being the GM.


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captain yesterday wrote:
I honestly dont get the ambivalence towards animalistic races, havent you been watching cartoons for the last since they were invented? its fun to play as crazy off the wall cartoon characters:)

Not to all it's not. I cringe at thought of sitting down with a group who wants to play cartoon characters in a pathfinder style game. So if you want it, great. But trust me, not everyone likes a game like that.

I won't even permit kender, or kender wannabees either, just due to the sheer disruption factor they can bring to a game.


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I suppose that's fair. It's not like we'll ever be at each other's tables to give each other headaches over it.

I've just long since gotten over the standard-seven-fantasy-humanoids being the only playable options and want more exotic, more fantastical creatures out of my games and populating my world as actual people rather than targets and barbaric half-cultures. Hence why my group's setting has a vast array of homebrewed and other-setting-borrowed PC races, ranging from anthropomorphic critters to more half-creature races to far more exotic things. I've honestly lost interest in worlds that have that limited perspective. It's why I don't play FR or Golarion anymore.

A Partial List:
Humans
Halflings
Dwarves (who are primarily sailors rather than miners/smiths)
Elves
Half-Elves
Kobolds
Orcs
Leoni (a lion-like catfolk race)
Glaistigs (a satyr-like fey race)
Children of Arachne (a shapeshifting spider race that begin as araneas in youth and eventually gain a third drider-like form as they age)
Entomorphs (a moth-like race with metamorphic origins)
Fenrin (a wolf-like race)
Ael-Vari (an elven cousin race with avian traits - wings and taloned hands and feet)
Leanai-dubh (a plant/fey hybrid race based off the Ghillie Dubh legend)
Gnomes
Naga (of the humanoid torso with snake tail for legs variety)
Ratfolk
Tengu
Gnolls
Ti'Larinn (a velociraptor-like lizardfolk race)
Thriae
Civil Harpies
Warforged
Yuan-Ti
Runari (a small-sized, jackal-like race with arcane affinity)
Dragonborn (based on the 3.5 version, with some variance)
Muri (based on 3.5's Karsites)
Rilkan (from 3.5's Incarnum)
Skarn (from 3.5's Incarnum)
Ursion (a bear-folk race)

... and there are probably others I've forgotten >_>

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I don't allow anthropomorphic animals as PCs. As NPCs and monsters, it's ok. Mostly the staples though. Like Lizardmen and such.

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I don't mind anthrorphic characters as pcs. Nor should DMs be forced to allow them at the table. It's a matter of preference. I have both a Gunslinger and Alchemist in my latest game. I'm not going to allow them in my next game. Nor is it a bad thing.


Kiraya TiDrekan wrote:

DM: "Make an attack roll."

Most Annoying Player: "What die do I roll for that?"

After playing for several years, this player still can't be bothered to learn how to actually play the game.

I have one of these guys.


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The guy who feels obligated to bust out his ninja tae kwon jitsu on an unruly fellow player.


I've come dangerously close to not allowing any race but Human in my homebrew setting. And I'm still right on the edge where that is concerned.

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That actually works amazingly well for the ranger.


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Well I'm assuming there are still other races, just not as PCs.


If nothing else it makes it easy for all of us to make lists of who we would and wouldn't be interested in gaming with.


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Like Santa Claus!


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He doesn't always miss game sessions, but when he does he calls right at start time.

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I just really hate special snowflakes who don't want to be treated any differently because of their being special.

So you're a 2m tall golden-skinned white-haired man with completely blue eyes with wings (replace with a humanoid animal or whatever) entering an Inn in a predominantly human town?

Tell me how you expect to be treated just like another local.


He doesn't always play the cleric, but when he does, the only cure spells he casts are on himself.


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Hama wrote:

I just really hate special snowflakes who don't want to be treated any differently because of their being special.

So you're a 2m tall golden-skinned white-haired man with completely blue eyes with wings (replace with a humanoid animal or whatever) entering an Inn in a predominantly human town?

Tell me how you expect to be treated just like another local.

Whereas I want a world where that kind of guy is treated normal because there's an entire town of folks like him living about two days by foot to the south. They make silk and trade it to the humans for steel. Or something like that.

It's all in what you want out of a setting. It doesn't always mean someone wants to be "special snowflake", sometimes it's just that people have different definitions of what's truly fantastical and/or interesting to them.

That's my real issue with these kinds of conversations, really - the idea that anyone who wants to play something nonstandard is doing it because they want to be a "special snowflake" or some other equally-derogatory term. It's demeaning and insulting, and nobody ever seems to call it out as such.

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I remember why I used to play such "special races". I don't see the point.

I won't complain if someone wants to play it in someone else's game, and since I don't play racist characters, I'll treat them decently.

But honestly, my settings aren't that fantastic, nor do I want them to be.


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Hama wrote:
But honestly, my settings aren't that fantastic, nor do I want them to be.

Which is the biggest point on which we differ =) We want completely opposite things out of the game.

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I can see a special race once or twice in a world where you have the core races. To be treated the same by the locals it depends on the race. I can see a furry while raising a eyebrow not get asked too many questions. After all people in town own cats or live in a area with wild cats. A nagaji or Kobold would raise a few eyebrows and would have to prove themselves to the locals. People in my worlds act like real people not locals from a fantasy novel.

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@ Orthos: I'd still want to play at your table.


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I hate people that call other people things like "snowflake" or "furry" based on his/hers choice of character, *spoiler alert* people hate being marginalized, labeled or insulted and when you use them it makes you look like a jerk.

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