Nualia Rebuild advice / opinions wanted


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I posted this on the Rise of the Runelords board but only got responses on how Nualia should be a AntiPaladin, I was hoping I could get some opinions on this build.

Spoiler:
I am going for a Sword and Claw build with this, two handing the Sword for raw damage and using the Claw for status effects. I feel having her strikes cause pustules or madness flavors well for a follower of Lamashtu

Diminuendo wrote:

After all that effort of sacrificing her father for that Demon Talon it seems such a waste for her to not use it, so here is my rebuild, I would appreciate any input;

*In my games any character that meets the prerequisites gets Power Attack, Deadly Aim and Combat Expertise for free.

I'm going with Cleric of Lamashtu 3 / Weapon Master 3 as the fourth level of Cleric doesn't add enough, and Weapon Master can be used to remove the need for Weapon Focus, since she doesn't really benifit from a higher max Dex for her Breastplate.

The build uses a Demon Talon to deliver vicious touch effects. Exotic Weapon Proficiency: Bastard Sword is ditched as the Sword will only be used two handed, to do damage (as she can not Power Attack with her Talon) or Cleave. Her Bastard Sword is also given the Mighty Cleaving Enchantment.

Here is the basic progression outline:

Lv1 Cleric 1 - Skill Focus: Heal, Domains: Nightmare (for the Yeth Hound howl) and Ferocity
Lv2 Cleric 2 -
Lv3 Cleric 3 - Eldritch Heritage: Pestilence
Lv4 Weapon Master 1 - Cleave
Lv5 Weapon Master 2 - Selective Channel and Stance of the Xorn (punishes her less for Cleaving)
Lv6 Weapon Master 3 - Weapon Training: Claw

Thoughts? Any suggestions for variant channeling would also be great.


Uh, spoilers?


Nualia rebuilt as a Summoner. (Takes quite a lot of effort, but worth it IMO)

Her Eidolon was a gift from Lamashtu, and when she cast her summon monster spells she 'birthed' them.

Really squicky, but super thematic.

Very Respectfully,
--Bacon

Grand Lodge

Spoilers dude.


Again, opinions on *this* build please, rather than telling me to compleatly ditch this build. Nualia could be an anti paladin, a barbarian, a summoner or just about any other class.

Sorry about the spoilers

Grand Lodge

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I apologised, and you got your point in the first post, no reason to repeate it after I have admitted fault, it also says "don't be a jerk" there too, just saying.

This seemed more like a "bruce wayne is batman" sorta spoiler to me but I learnt my lession.

Build. Opinions.


Spoiler:
The nightmare touch attack only gives a -1 to fear saves; the synergy with a yeth hound's baying is minimal.

The will save and especially the reflex save of the character are not amazing - don't you think it's likely she'll be stunned or blinded or at the bottom of a pit by the end of round 1? The multiple melee options seem to be kind of a waste.

The obvious variant channeling option is
Madness: Harm—Creatures are confused until the end of your next turn.

Liberty's Edge

avr wrote:
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SPOILERS!


HangarFlying wrote:

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SPOILERS!

If you like, though I included nothing that wasn't in the first post already.

Grand Lodge

Diminuendo wrote:

I apologised, and you got your point in the first post, no reason to repeate it after I have admitted fault, it also says "don't be a jerk" there too, just saying.

This seemed more like a "bruce wayne is batman" sorta spoiler to me but I learnt my lession.

Build. Opinions.

Teapot. Kettle. Black.

Moving on...

What about a Warpriest?


warpriest could work... dont wanna use playtest classes though.

I chose the nightmare domain to put paladins in their place mainly.

Grand Lodge

Maybe the Crusader Cleric archetype would work.


She makes a fine Inquisitor.


avr wrote:
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The Reflex save is actually one higher than the original Nualia build because of the extra fighter level sacrifices 1 for her Fort save for this. Maybe a trait to give her an extra +1 to reflex saves?

Madness sounds awesome for her.


The point is 3 different melee options are a waste on a character who will be rapidly debuffed to the point where they can't effectively use them.

If you drop the skill focus/EH you could get a couple of save boosting feats (Iron will & improved iron will if your players favor targeting will saves, etc.) which might let her survive long enough to use 2 melee options. If that seems too metagamey to you, just get iron will & lightning reflexes.

Liberty's Edge

avr wrote:
HangarFlying wrote:

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SPOILERS!

If you like, though I included nothing that wasn't in the first post already.

Doesn't mean you shouldn't set a good example.

Paizo Glitterati Robot

Threw some spoiler tags on.

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