Tiefling before the cutoff (played vs xp)?


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Grand Lodge 2/5

I've got all my sessions planned from now to GenCON. I've got a We be Goblins point and a point from GM'ing that I will have set aside for a tiefling I want. But by then I won't have played it as a tiefling. Now from what I read in the blog post, this is fine. But my wife insists she read something that would imply that the character has to be played as a tiefling to be legal.

I wouldn't say this is "abusing" anything. If I weren't GM'ing, I'd be playing the tiefling for that session and it would end up the exact same. So is there a rule somewhere outside of that blog announcement that says this?

Grand Lodge 5/5

I'll look for the relevant posts in a second, but the short answer is that the We Be Goblins xp wouldn't do it for you, but the GM credit will as long as you write Tiefling on it showing that you are planning to apply it to a Tiefling character legally before the cut-off.

From John Compton:

It's apparent from reading the messageboard and a few messages I've received that it's not clear what qualifies as "grandfathering." Let me clear that up.

The updated Guide will establish that a player cannot retrain a character into an aasimar or tiefling without a corresponding race boon. That means that if you're playing a character that you intend to grandfather in as an aasimar or tiefling, it's critical to play the character as an aasimar or tiefling. None of our pregenerated characters are aasimars or tieflings, so that means that pregen credit is not sufficient for grandfathering in a character.

What about for GMs? For a character built entirely from GM credit, is it possible to determine what race that character is or would become? Let's look at two major possibilities for a GM with a 5th-level, unplayed blob of GM credit.

Really Strict: The player needs to actually play the character as an aasimar, thus locking in the character.
Really Lenient: The player can choose to be an aasimar or tiefling whenever she actually builds and plays the character because she applied XP to the character before August 14th.

Mike and I have discussed better approaches, and we're going with something in-between.

Moderate: If a GM intends to use a character made of GM credit to build an aasimar or tiefling, simply write something to the effect of "This character will be an aasimar when I play it" on the most recent Chronicle sheet that grants XP.

You don't need to get it notarized or anything like that, nor do you need to establish what class, ability scores, or other character options it has. This is just a simple, self-policing step to establish a character as a member of a restricted race in time for that character to be grandfathered in. What we don't want is a GM holding onto undefined GM credit for 18 months before making a tiefling, as that's going against the spirit of this opportunity.

I hope that helps, not really thinking straight anymore, must sleep

Grand Lodge 2/5

Thanks, that's pretty how I figured it would work out. Though I doubt I would've thought to write "this character will be a tiefling" without some prompting.

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