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So, with This post we have some guidelines for how Aasimar and Tiefling grandfathering works. Played characters need to be played as aasimar/tieflings, DM credit should be declared aasimars/tieflings.

So, for those of you who don't have a notary in your gaming group, this thread exists to provide a time stamped proof positive record of your native outsideryness.

Thoth
Aasimar (Idylykin)
Born 7/20/14
Played in The devil you know I

Grand Lodge 4/5 ** Venture-Agent, Colorado—Denver

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Won't the official reporting of it be proof enough?

Shadow Lodge 2/5

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Also; aren't you supposed to have all your chronicle sheets with you at games in case of GM questions regarding the character (i.e. boons and such, date of scenarios played, current resources, etc?).

I have a binder of my current volume of characters, which now includes a 2nd level teifling cleric. If your record keeping is sound, the grandfathering shouldn't be an issue. *shrug*

Liberty's Edge 2/5

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Pathfinder "Birthers"? Whats next?!

Shadow Lodge 2/5

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The Wayfinder Faction replacing both Grand Lodge and Silver Crusade?

Scarab Sages 2/5

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Pharasma Death Panels?

Shadow Lodge 2/5

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A Golarion New World Order Order secretly run by halflings.

Grand Lodge 4/5 ** Venture-Agent, Colorado—Denver

Kezzie Redlioness wrote:
The Wayfinder Faction replacing both Grand Lodge and Silver Crusade?

Wayfinder Faction? Awesome. Never heard of it. Is there a post about this somewhere? I don't recall seeing it in the Faction Changes blogs.

Shadow Lodge 2/5

roll4initiative wrote:
Kezzie Redlioness wrote:
The Wayfinder Faction replacing both Grand Lodge and Silver Crusade?
Wayfinder Faction? Awesome. Never heard of it. Is there a post about this somewhere? I don't recall seeing it in the Faction Changes blogs.

There isn't one, I just made that up. But now that you mention it...That does seem like an interesting combo. :)

Grand Lodge 4/5 ** Venture-Agent, Colorado—Denver

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There isn't one, I just made that up. But now that you mention it...That does seem like an interesting combo. :)

I think that's an excellent idea. You should start another post about this and see what people have to say. The Lamplighter Faction was an awesome idea and got tons of input. Please?

Shadow Lodge 2/5

roll4initiative wrote:
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There isn't one, I just made that up. But now that you mention it...That does seem like an interesting combo. :)

I think that's an excellent idea. You should start another post about this and see what people have to say. The Lamplighter Faction was an awesome idea and got tons of input. Please?

Sure. Why not? What's the worst that can happen?

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Great idea BNW

45216-10 is an Aasimar

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So... when I finish drafting up a PFS/Golarion birth certificate, I should post up the template here?

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93548-4 is my 4th level Aasimar Life Oracle with major Pluses to Healing spells....

93548-7 is my Demon-Spawn Tiefling Ranger

93548-8 is my Moiri-born (Svetocher)Monk with Chronicle Sheet from GM Boon that is no longer earnable.

Sovereign Court

What the heck, 62680-06 is an Aasimar.

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if you have Hero Lab the new Factions are posted in the traits and feats sections. Therefore if they have the new factions there must be a list somewhere

Silver Crusade 2/5

70038-8 is an Aasimar life oracle.

Silver Crusade 4/5

Is the "born" date when they got their first xp?

I have one planning to be birthed on July 28, though I've already posted to the forums in character with him once.

Grand Lodge 4/5

16590-14
Marlowe Blood
Tiefling (kyton-spawn) Bard
We Be Goblins credit 7 June 2014

Scarab Sages

72951-2 is an Angel-blooded Aasimar Wood Oracle

Scarab Sages 4/5 5/55/55/5 *** Venture-Captain, Australia—NSW—Greater West

2035-9

Garuda blooded Aasimar Ninja

The Confirmation credit 20/07/2014

Grand Lodge 4/5 5/55/5

Mandark - Tiefling witch - 52438-13 - 09/25/2013
Koogler - Aasimar bard - 52438-17 - 04/04/2014
(?????) - Aasimar cleric - 52438-18 - 06/21/2014

All these are from before I even knew this was going to happen.

Shadow Lodge 4/5

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Well, you don't need this thread, since writing it on the Chronicle sheet is enough, but...

My -6 is gonna be an Aasimar. First given magic GM XP on 7/18/2014.

Dark Archive 4/5

When did Aasimars _start_ being legal without a boon?

I have a 5th level GM credit PC I started in early 2012 that has yet to have more than a name and a faction.

Horizon Hunters 4/5 5/5 *** Venture-Lieutenant, Indiana—Indianapolis

ZomB wrote:

When did Aasimars _start_ being legal without a boon?

I have a 5th level GM credit PC I started in early 2012 that has yet to have more than a name and a faction.

At the beginning of Season 4, I believe.

Silver Crusade 4/5

Starglim wrote:

16590-14

Marlowe Blood
Tiefling (kyton-spawn) Bard
We Be Goblins credit 7 June 2014

I hate to break it to you, but We Be Goblins doesn't count. Per John Compton in this post:

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None of our pregenerated characters are aasimars or tieflings, so that means that pregen credit is not sufficient for grandfathering in a character.

And obviously, you're always playing a pregen when you play We Be Goblins.

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Fromper wrote:
And obviously, you're always playing a pregen when you play We Be Goblins.

37 people could have played it without a pregen :P

Silver Crusade 4/5

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Carlos Robledo wrote:
Fromper wrote:
And obviously, you're always playing a pregen when you play We Be Goblins.
37 people could have played it without a pregen :P

And they still wouldn't be able to grandfather in a tiefling or aasimar with that 1 xp if they had. :P

The Exchange 5/5

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wait - what if I have a PC that plays as a tiefling or aasimar, gains one XP - and then I want to train him into something else? Say a Nagagi. Can I use the 1st level re-write rules to do that? or is the PC "locked" into being a tiefling or aasimar?

or if he was a Tiefling can I change him into an Aasimar before I play him at Level 2?

Or if he was one kind of Aasimar (say Anglekin) can I change him into another (say Musetouched) before I play him at Level 2?

Shadow Lodge 2/5

Fromper wrote:
Carlos Robledo wrote:
Fromper wrote:
And obviously, you're always playing a pregen when you play We Be Goblins.
37 people could have played it without a pregen :P
And they still wouldn't be able to grandfather in a tiefling or aasimar with that 1 xp if they had. :P

And should be punched in the face if they try. :p

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Conman the Bardbarian wrote:
Fromper wrote:
Carlos Robledo wrote:
Fromper wrote:
And obviously, you're always playing a pregen when you play We Be Goblins.
37 people could have played it without a pregen :P
And they still wouldn't be able to grandfather in a tiefling or aasimar with that 1 xp if they had. :P
And should be punched in the face if they try. :p

You all need to lay off a bit on the coffee.

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nosig wrote:

wait - what if I have a PC that plays as a tiefling or aasimar, gains one XP - and then I want to train him into something else? Say a Nagagi. Can I use the 1st level re-write rules to do that? or is the PC "locked" into being a tiefling or aasimar?

or if he was a Tiefling can I change him into an Aasimar before I play him at Level 2?

Or if he was one kind of Aasimar (say Anglekin) can I change him into another (say Musetouched) before I play him at Level 2?

You're mostly fine. John made it clear in the other thread.

You can retrain out of Aasimar/Tiefling. You can change subrace.

You can NOT go from Aasimar to Tiefling or vice versa.

Grand Lodge 4/5 **** Venture-Captain, California—Sacramento

Fromper wrote:
Starglim wrote:

16590-14

Marlowe Blood
Tiefling (kyton-spawn) Bard
We Be Goblins credit 7 June 2014

I hate to break it to you, but We Be Goblins doesn't count. Per John Compton in this post:

Quote:
None of our pregenerated characters are aasimars or tieflings, so that means that pregen credit is not sufficient for grandfathering in a character.
And obviously, you're always playing a pregen when you play We Be Goblins.

Not if you GMed

Silver Crusade 4/5

FLite wrote:
Fromper wrote:
Starglim wrote:

16590-14

Marlowe Blood
Tiefling (kyton-spawn) Bard
We Be Goblins credit 7 June 2014

I hate to break it to you, but We Be Goblins doesn't count. Per John Compton in this post:

Quote:
None of our pregenerated characters are aasimars or tieflings, so that means that pregen credit is not sufficient for grandfathering in a character.
And obviously, you're always playing a pregen when you play We Be Goblins.
Not if you GMed

Good point. Not sure if that applies here.

Dark Archive 4/5 *

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52875-2
Shoteka Amiel
Aasimar(Azata) Bard
Destiny of the Sands Pt2 GM credit 7/11/2014

Grand Lodge 2/5 RPG Superstar 2012 Top 32

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Does this thread actually accomplish anything? I mean, my wife has a 3XP character, along with a character sheet for a 2nd-level aasimar, but it hasn't been played as an aasimar. To my knowledge, even if she comes in here and says HEY LOOK AASIMAR she's still out of luck unless she can actually get a game in before the deadline.

Right?

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I was mostly going for a laugh.

Peace of mind about dating things (since you can sign and date your own dm chronicle at any time) and spreading the word about John comptons post are just bonuses.

Silver Crusade 4/5

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Jiggy wrote:

Does this thread actually accomplish anything? I mean, my wife has a 3XP character, along with a character sheet for a 2nd-level aasimar, but it hasn't been played as an aasimar. To my knowledge, even if she comes in here and says HEY LOOK AASIMAR she's still out of luck unless she can actually get a game in before the deadline.

Right?

Correct. This is a social thread that doesn't actually count for anything.

Sczarni 5/5 5/55/5 ***

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BigNorseWolf wrote:
you can sign and date your own dm chronicle at any time

I don't see how. You create an event with a date, hand out Chronicles to players with that date, and report it as having taken place on that date.

Unless you just mean falsifying information.

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As a note I will never spend this much effort to come on the boards and check someone for their characters race.

I will take your word for it.

Honestly what is to stop some one from forging a chronicle and past dating it?

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Finlanderboy wrote:

As a note I will never spend this much effort to come on the boards and check someone for their characters race.

I will take your word for it.

Honestly what is to stop some one from forging a chronicle and past dating it?

The exact same thing that stops somebody from forging any other chronicle sheet.

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Pirate Rob wrote:
Finlanderboy wrote:

As a note I will never spend this much effort to come on the boards and check someone for their characters race.

I will take your word for it.

Honestly what is to stop some one from forging a chronicle and past dating it?

The exact same thing that stops somebody from forging any other chronicle sheet.

Thats why I will take thier word for it. If they lie to my face they will lie on a piece of paper as well.


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Honestly, it is threads like this that make me, a new PFS player, want reconsider my involvement in PFS.

It is a game.

If someone plays a new character as one of the planetouched really really close to the deadline, this imaginary little world will not be ruined.

No beasts, magical or mundane will be harmed.

/signed, an Aasimar of class to be named later... or maybe a Tiefling.

Silver Crusade 2/5

Oath wrote:
Honestly, it is threads like this that make me, a new PFS player, want reconsider my involvement in PFS.

Give it a chance. And don't worry too much about this uproar. This ruling (the played-as ruling) seems pretty uncharacteristic of PFS as I've experienced it over the last year and a half. :-)

Yeah, there's paperwork and rules to follow, but those are the (acceptable) costs of organized play, and Mike & John do an excellent job running the campaign.

This particular ruling is not my favorite ever (though I support moving Aasimars and Tieflings out of the "always available" category), but I wouldn't worry too much as a new player that this is how things always are. Like I said, it seems uncharacteristic.

But, of course, YMMV. You may find that the strictures of organized play don't suit you. At least if that does turn out to be the case, PFS is a great place to meet other PF players to form home groups! :-)

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Oath wrote:

Honestly, it is threads like this that make me, a new PFS player, want reconsider my involvement in PFS.

It is a game.

If someone plays a new character as one of the planetouched really really close to the deadline, this imaginary little world will not be ruined.

No beasts, magical or mundane will be harmed.

/signed, an Aasimar of class to be named later... or maybe a Tiefling.

Exactly. Some people are going overboard on the rules for this.

I have seen DMs abuse(cheat) the rules to force people into not playing their character at their table and that wrecks PFS.

Maybe this is some form of power and control that makes them feel good. But it bothers me a great deal the amount of stress people are placing on this.

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Oath wrote:

Honestly, it is threads like this that make me, a new PFS player, want reconsider my involvement in PFS.

It is a game.

If someone plays a new character as one of the planetouched really really close to the deadline, this imaginary little world will not be ruined.

No beasts, magical or mundane will be harmed.

/signed, an Aasimar of class to be named later... or maybe a Tiefling.

Chuckle... its a bit of tongue in cheek humor. Relax. You PROBABLY won't run into anyone this persnickety.

Probably...

Shadow Lodge 3/5

Oath's post is really valuable constructive feedback. There are people who won't see this thread, nobody at Paizo has asked people to record a post like this, and doing so will make some people think "you don't have a post, so your character is probably a dud."

For that reason, unless campaign staff says it's a rule, posting here should actually be discouraged.

Silver Crusade 4/5

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Oath wrote:

Honestly, it is threads like this that make me, a new PFS player, want reconsider my involvement in PFS.

It is a game.

If someone plays a new character as one of the planetouched really really close to the deadline, this imaginary little world will not be ruined.

No beasts, magical or mundane will be harmed.

/signed, an Aasimar of class to be named later... or maybe a Tiefling.

You seem to have mistaken the Pathfinder Society forums on Paizo.com for a place people come to discuss playing Pathfinder Society. That's not what this is. These forums are for people whose hobby is debating people on the internet, not for people who actually play PFS.

Sczarni 5/5 5/55/5 ***

Fromper wrote:

You seem to have mistaken the Pathfinder Society forums on Paizo.com for a place people come to discuss playing Pathfinder Society. That's not what this is. These forums are for people whose hobby is debating people on the internet, not for people who actually play PFS.

Hey now. Some of us like to play PFS and debate people on the Internet.

Dark Archive 5/5 5/55/55/5

-15 Fulgin awaits the opening of the dark archive..Yes. it will be... interesting.

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