Arcane Bonded Double Weapon


Rules Questions

Silver Crusade

If I have a wizard who wanted to bond with a double weapon, would she be able to upgrade both ends of the weapon as if she had the appropriate feats, with all other pre-requisites met? Can the same be done with a shield?


yes to the weapon, as long as the costs are paid, and no to the shield. It is not on the list of items that can become a bonded object.

Although, if there is an Archetype that allows you a shield as a bonded object, that then becomes a yes.


dragonhunterq wrote:
yes to the weapon...no to the shield. It is not on the list of items that can become a bonded object.

Shields ARE weapons, therefore they can be bonded objects.

Grand Lodge

Honorable Goblin wrote:


Shields ARE weapons, therefore they can be bonded objects.

This but you would only be able to enchant it as a weapon, not the defense side of things, aka no Bashing enchant.


1 person marked this as a favorite.
London Duke wrote:
Honorable Goblin wrote:


Shields ARE weapons, therefore they can be bonded objects.

This but you would only be able to enchant it as a weapon, not the defense side of things, aka no Bashing enchant.

The description of the Bonded Object class feature doesn't say or even imply this.

PRD>Core Rulebook>Classes>Wizard>Arcane Bond wrote:
A wizard can add additional magic abilities to his bonded object as if he has the required item creation feats and if he meets the level prerequisites of the feat. For example, a wizard with a bonded dagger must be at least 5th level to add magic abilities to the dagger (see the Craft Magic Arms and Armor feat in Feats). If the bonded object is a wand, it loses its wand abilities when its last charge is consumed, but it is not destroyed and it retains all of its bonded object properties and can be used to craft a new wand. The magic properties of a bonded object, including any magic abilities added to the object, only function for the wizard who owns it. If a bonded object's owner dies, or the item is replaced, the object reverts to being an ordinary masterwork item of the appropriate type.

It just says that you can add magical properties to the item as if you had the appropriate magic item creation feats (in the case of a shield, Craft Magic Arms and Armor). CMA&A allows a character to add both weapon and shield enchantments to a shield.

EDIT: I can see how one might interpret the rules as only allowing weapon enchantments to be put on a bonded shield since the specificity of the list of what can be a bonded object, but since the rules aren't explicit, as a GM I'd allow shield enchantments (but as a player, I would not begrudge a GM who ruled differently).


Pathfinder Lost Omens Subscriber

A shield is a shield, which happens to have qualities of weapons and armor. yet, they are neither. at least as far as i can tell, as they seem to use different stuff than weapons generally.

Community / Forums / Pathfinder / Pathfinder First Edition / Rules Questions / Arcane Bonded Double Weapon All Messageboards

Want to post a reply? Sign in.