So we're going to be starting up a carrion crown ap soon, and I have no idea what to play. Normally, I play the rogue/sneaky type. But i'm wanting to branch out. The players i'll be with are not the most experienced, in fact out of them I will have the most experience...
Nothing is set in stone yet but it looks like:
Sword and Board TWF Fighter
Corpse-hunter Archer Ranger
Ninja-flavored Two-hander rogue (1st time playing any RP)
Some caster cleric
then me. I can see the usefulness to the party if I were some utility, but at the same time I would like to be somebody who would lead the party in game, and out of game. All material is available. I am totally looking for something really fun to role play as, while maintaining high viability in combat.
Open to all suggestions. Go at it
You're missing an arcane caster, so I'd go with sorcerer or bard to be able to face as well. Summoner could fit as well, but that might cause problems in an unexperienced group.
Maybe a melee Bard? Dervish of Dawn, Archeologist or Arcane Duelist?
Bard would relly make all those martials shine (in case you keep inspire courage), especially those with lots of attacks (archer/TWF Fighter).
Sorcerer would be more raw power but less skills, even though you should be able to cover the most important ones. Pala/Sorc/DD could be viable as well.
On the other hand if you dont care for arcane casting, the inquisitor might be a good fit too - great utility, can be the face (conversion inquisition) and is strong in combat.
Magus.....Arcane casting and some healing.
Sorcerer, focused on conjuration
You can be the face quite easy, you can summon additional tanks, you can cast a wide array of CC spells.
perfect fit for your party
I like the idea of summoning more goons. I also like the idea of blasting fools, but I think we have enough damage... The bard idea is cool. But we have another melee joining, so the melee bard wouldn't be ideal with 4 melee and 2 range.
Witch, Wizard, or Sorcerer can both do great battlefield control. And with that many Martials, a few buffs here and there wouldn't hurt (Haste e.g.), which Wizard or Sorcerer can also do.
You could also do a ranged bard.
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Dark tapestry Oracle
Switch sides later on in AP!!!
I don't want to spoil anything for you but, with what you'll be facing in Carrion Crown (which is my favorite AP by the way), an extra cleric would not be a bad idea. Inquisitor would be another good choice. A cleric/wizard/mystic theurge with the right spells would be phenomenal in this campaign. Just my opinion.
So I think I want to go with a ranged bard. The only problem is that I have never played a bard, ever. So I kind of have no idea how to go about making one lol.
I want to be ranged for sure, and want to be able to buff the party on demand, but still be able to do decent dmg of my own.
We were able to roll stats, and I ended up with:
18,17,16,14,14,13
So nice stats. I'm thinking of going Aasimar? But idk. Suggestions?
Arcane duelist archetype?
If you make a melee pc be sure to include some option to hurt incorporeal because there are some early on and you will not find enough magic weapons.
I had to sit by and watch all the major fights in the first parts because I was not the one to get the only magic weapon we found.
I'm GM'ing Carrion Crown. We are about halfway through book 1 and I've read the whole AP. I'm not trying to spoil the AP for you, but if you play a bard, don't give up Bardic Knowledge. Knowledge skills (all of them) and Diplomacy are very important in this campaign.
I'm a player in a CC campaign, and we're on book 5. Up until now our party has consisted of a Paladin, a Rogue, a Ranger, an Inquisitor, and myself as a Conjurer Wizard, but my Wizard got put out of commission last session. I have to say though, between all the knowledge ranks, the crafting feats, and the ability to summon celestial creatures, my wizard was perhaps making the AP a little too easy. I second recommendations for Bard, but if you REALLY want to rock the campaign combat-wise, play a Champion of Irori.
Some fairly typical feats for an archer Bard would be something like:
Point Blank Shot (prereq for everything)
Precise Shot
Rapid Shot
Arcane Strike
Deadly Aim
Manyshot
That's not in any order, really. I'd be tempted to go Human for the flexibile stat bonus and bonus feat. Highest stat is in Dex (+racial), with decent Con, Cha and Str. You don't need sky-high Charisma as you're mainly buffing instead of throwing save-based spells. I'd also suggest no archetype, as the versatility you get from the standard Bard is great. With versatile performance Oratory and Comedy cover all the social skills, and with the statline you've rolled you should have plenty of skillpoints for Knowledges.
Spend the first two turns getting Inspire Courage up, chuck out a couple of buffs and from turn 3 onward pepper things with arrows. Arcane Strike, Deadly Aim and a Composite Bow will ensure your arrows hit hard, and you might want to consider Clustered Shots to help beat DR. Make a knowledge check just about every time you fight something and then yell any weaknesses to the party. Get Saving Finale and love it - this will stop many nasty effects that would otherwise mess the party up.
*Edit* With the bard you can quite easily get away with being a solid buffer/support without additional feat investment, which is why I suggested offensive archery feats.
What do you guys think about going bards then at some point take a single level in sorc, taking crossblooded- undead and impossible?
If you want to effect undead you might consider going Dirge Bard instead of dipping.
Alchemist
Int damage on holy water vs undead is pretty good I've heard.
Alchemist
Int damage on holy water vs undead is pretty good I've heard.
Water patron witch 1/alchemist x with false focus for free holy water with int to damage. Sadly it will not keep up in the higher levels.
Don't dip unless you really want something from that class.
And being a bard is about enabling others, not doing DPR. Of course, what the others do more because of your aid, is basically yours.
