Building a Ghoul-lash


Rules Questions


Ever since seeing the pun in the name, I've been pondering building a whip that transmits Ghoul Touch with an attack.

The problem is, I can't see anything that corresponds to the combination I'm looking for. Essentially it would be a weapon (whip) that allows the casting of Ghoul Touch with a touch attack.

Should I be looking at basing it on a wand and then adding in the cost of a whip (which I guess would have to be at least +1 to have a Special Quality), or is there a better way to go about it? Obviously, the ideal situation would be to have unlimited charges, but I can live with a wand-like 50 or so charges before requiring a recharge. A single use (á la Spell Storing) is too restrictive for my vision of the whip.

The Weaponwand spell seems to offer a possible solution but obviously requires the casting of that spell and is therefore limited to 1 min/caster level.

Any thoughts or ideas?


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We are talking about custom magic items so you need a GM approval and the item is not PFS legal.

By the item creation rules you need a lot of gold for such a powerful item.
Use-activated or continuous, Spell level × caster level × 2,000 gp x 4 (for a spell duration measured in rounds)

= 2 x 3 x 2000 x 4 = 48.000 gp

Then you have a magic whip with a permanent ghoul touch spell (CL3) on it. You can add other enchantments like a weapon enchantment bonus.

A wand of 'Reach ghoul touch' is cheaper and easier to obtain. It is a lvl 2 spell altered with the 'Reach' metamagic feat that changes the 'touch' range to 25ft + 5ft./2level for 11.250gp.


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That seems to be about right. 48 000 is a lot of cash, however!

Dark Archive

From a GM point of view, this seems like a perfect weapon to have some kind of curse effect on it as well.

I might just have to give that to an NPC in a future game.


As a ghoul-lash, something connected with undead, possibly. A growing desire to eat human flesh and a slow physical decay?

Or maybe just a slow transformation into a Hungarian? (Not that that would be a curse, really).

Grand Lodge

Well, What if you use the weapon wand spell?

Or built a necromancy focused magus?


Frostbite? Chill Touch?

If you're letting yourself 'skin' the effects, they might work.


A wand of ghoul touch & +1 spell storing whip would do the job fairly well. Better if you could get it on a staff for DC/caster level purposes... yep, Staff of Necromancy has it - 82K gp though.


FLite wrote:
Well, What if you use the weapon wand spell?

The Weaponwand spell looks promising but it has limited duration. I was also looking for a weapon that could be used by a non-arcane spellcaster (I have a concept for a dhampir oracle/rogue/monk/shadow-walker).

Maybe a Permanency spell on a Weaponwand? It would give fifty uses before having to be 'reloaded' (presumably using another wand and another Permanency). It would certain require GM agreement but the concept is fun enough that I can't see a huge hurdle there.

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