Eidolons manipulating objects in PFS

[EvilMinion]

from a PFS perspective...

If one has a serpentine eidolon, would it be able to manipulate objects with its tail? (For purposes of things like sleight of hand, or disable device, for instance. Or just picking things up in general.)

I realize from a descriptive pov, its easy to say that its tail is prehensile enough to do such things, but from a rules perspective, I'm not sure if its allowed.

If its not, what would be required to allow it to use skills like those mentioned above? A tentacle? Limbs (arms)?

And if it has arms (and the hands that go with it) is it ok to describe them as a prehensile tail? Or is that the bad type of reskinning, and if it has hands we have to describe hands for the outside world to know about?

[Paladin of Baha-who?]

The description of the tail evolution for eidolons doesn't say anything about it allowing manipulation of objects with it. Every race that has a prehensile tail has specific rules allowing them to use their tails that way. Using skills requiring fine manipulation would require at LEAST a tentacle evolution, if not Limbs. If you always play with the same PFS GM or group of GMs, you might be able to get them to form a consensus about it, and allow you to fluff a tentacle evolution on a serpentine eidolon as a prehensile tail -- but table variation is almost assured.

I've seen people try to do the same thing with a tongue. Any such idea always carries a distinct eau de limburger in my opinion.

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Tail evolution wrote:

Tail (Ex): An eidolon grows a long, powerful tail. This grants it a +2 racial bonus on Acrobatics checks made to balance on a surface. This evolution can be selected more than once.

That's all the tail grants it.

Tentacle evolution wrote:

Tentacle (Ex): An eidolon possesses a long, sinuous tentacle, granting it a tentacle attack. This attack is a secondary attack. The tentacle attack deals 1d4 points of damage (1d6 if Large, 1d8 if Huge). This evolution can be selected more than once.

That's all the tentacle grants it.

Limbs evolution wrote:

Limbs (Ex): An eidolon grows an additional pair of limbs. These limbs can take one of two forms. They can be made into legs, complete with feet. Each pair of legs increases the eidolon's base speed by 10 feet. Alternatively, they can be made into arms, complete with hands. The eidolon does not gain any additional natural attacks for an additional pair of arms, but it can take other evolutions that add additional attacks (such as claws or a slam). Arms that have hands can be used to wield weapons, if the eidolon is proficient. This evolution can be selected more than once.

This is a bit more up in the air, as most people would say hands that can wield weapons can also manipulate objects, but the text doesn't really suggest that specifically.