Please Confirm? Summon Monster Distance


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Two friends yesterday, for whom I have a great deal of respect in their system mastery, seemed to agree on something that I had never heard, and recited it like it was Gospel.

As I understand it, you cast summon monster/ally spells at close range, and Voom! the creature appears, and then can go do whatever task you desire, and could conceivably just run as far and as fast as it can until its summoning time is up.

They both believe that there the second a summon monster goes beyond its caster's close range, it is unsummoned. As though there is an invisible desummoning field that surrounds each caster that the creature must be aware of and never stray too close.

Other than the creature appearing at close range, is there any credence to there being any distance limit on summons? My cursory googlefu did not get me any obvious hits.

Thank you.


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Tsoli wrote:

Two friends yesterday, for whom I have a great deal of respect in their system mastery, seemed to agree on something that I had never heard, and recited it like it was Gospel.

As I understand it, you cast summon monster/ally spells at close range, and Voom! the creature appears, and then can go do whatever task you desire, and could conceivably just run as far and as fast as it can until its summoning time is up.

They both believe that there the second a summon monster goes beyond its caster's close range, it is unsummoned. As though there is an invisible desummoning field that surrounds each caster that the creature must be aware of and never stray too close.

Other than the creature appearing at close range, is there any credence to there being any distance limit on summons? My cursory googlefu did not get me any obvious hits.

Thank you.

No. Core Rulebook Page 209:

A creature or object brought into being or transported to your location by a conjuration spell cannot appear inside another creature or object, nor can it appear floating in an empty space. It must arrive in an open location on a surface capable of supporting it.

The creature or object must appear within the spell’s range, but it does not have to remain within the range.


Salazar wrote:
Tsoli wrote:

Two friends yesterday, for whom I have a great deal of respect in their system mastery, seemed to agree on something that I had never heard, and recited it like it was Gospel.

As I understand it, you cast summon monster/ally spells at close range, and Voom! the creature appears, and then can go do whatever task you desire, and could conceivably just run as far and as fast as it can until its summoning time is up.

They both believe that there the second a summon monster goes beyond its caster's close range, it is unsummoned. As though there is an invisible desummoning field that surrounds each caster that the creature must be aware of and never stray too close.

Other than the creature appearing at close range, is there any credence to there being any distance limit on summons? My cursory googlefu did not get me any obvious hits.

Thank you.

No. Core Rulebook Page 209:

A creature or object brought into being or transported to your location by a conjuration spell cannot appear inside another creature or object, nor can it appear floating in an empty space. It must arrive in an open location on a surface capable of supporting it.

The creature or object must appear within the spell’s range, but it does not have to remain within the range.

Seriously, thank you so much. That fight would have gone a lot smoother if i could have found that paragraph.

Sovereign Court

Those descriptions of the varied effects of the individual schools are full of these sort of crucial details.


Do you pick where the summoned creature appears when you start casting the spell or when you finish casting the spell the following round?

Grand Lodge

kadance wrote:
Do you pick where the summoned creature appears when you start casting the spell or when you finish casting the spell the following round?

Usually it is when the effects manifest, in other words, when you finish casting and the monster/ally appears.

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