Buying Gear During Downtime?


Pathfinder Society

4/5 5/55/5 **

I'm a little confused as to when I can buy gear. What I've done previously is that I would buy gear between scenarios and record it on my next chronicle. I was under the impression that the downtime rules allowed me to do this. However, I recently played in a game that started in an area where we couldn't buy gear and the GM didn't allow me to do so. I understand that ruling, and have no qualms with it, but wanted to check and see what the actual gear buying rules are. Am I allowed to buy gear between scenarios, or must it be done either at the beginning or the end of a session?

Finally, a related question. Last time I played my -2 character, she died and was brought back to life via a scroll of breath of life. At the end of the session, I paid for the casting of one restoration on her. Now, I know that the PFS rules only allow you to pay for 1 restoration/session. Does this mean that I have to wait until the end of the session to purchase my restoration, or could I do so at the beginning, either as part of downtime buying (if that's allowed?) or during any time we may have between the briefing and starting our mission?

Silver Crusade 2/5

1. The rules in the Guide to Organized Play state

PFSGtOP wrote:

A GM must be present in order for you to purchase items.

This can be done before, during or after the adventure. All
transactions must be recorded on the scenario’s Chronicle
sheet and reflected on your character’s Inventory Tracking
Sheet.

This means that you have to buy during a session, with the gamemaster there. You can -plan- for purchases between sessions, but as you found out, there might not be an opportunity at the beginning. (Most gamemasters I know allow you to purchase at the same time as the briefing, which, in some scenarios is a recollection after the fact.)

2. Breath of Life doesn't cause anything to require restorations. It causes a temporary negative level that lasts for one day, not the permanent levels as are caused by Raise Dead.

Edit: corrected BoL negative levels.

5/5 **** Venture-Captain, Massachusetts—Central & West

Hi Lunar,

Unless the scenario description states that you don't really have time to purchase things, most GMs will let you show up with a list of "I'm going to buy this before I show up" items and have the GM sign off on it. It's a part of the whole "time between scenarios is undetermined" phenomenon.

As part of Season 5's purchasing rules, a GM must sign off on chronicle sheets for purchases made.

As for spellcasting services, you can purchase a Restoration between scenarios if you have access to spellcasting. In some cases, you may be stuck in an area with no spellcasting available between parts of multipart scenarios.

4/5 5/55/5 **

Thank you for the clarifications! I'll be sure to keep this information in mind for the future.

Dark Archive

David Montgomery wrote:

Hi Lunar,

Unless the scenario description states that you don't really have time to purchase things, most GMs will let you show up with a list of "I'm going to buy this before I show up" items and have the GM sign off on it. It's a part of the whole "time between scenarios is undetermined" phenomenon.

As part of Season 5's purchasing rules, a GM must sign off on chronicle sheets for purchases made.

As for spellcasting services, you can purchase a Restoration between scenarios if you have access to spellcasting. In some cases, you may be stuck in an area with no spellcasting available between parts of multipart scenarios.

I've been told, multiple times, in threads about the ITS sheet, that the GM is not required to sign off on purchases on it. That was how it was explained to not be a new policy that deliberately wastes the time of already time stressed volunteers.

Now I understand that some scenarios don't let you purchase equipement between getting the mission briefing and starting the mission ("Oh, we're hunting mummies? I'll buy some undead bane arrows." But GMs should allow you to make purchases you wanted before the session even starts. In fact, I've never encountered a GM that has any desire to be involved with that step at all.

I usually just figure out what I want to buy and add it to my character sheet in between games. If a GM wants to audit my sheet I make it and my ITS sheet available to them. I can pretty much gaurentee that you will never get flack about doing it that way ("Where did that +1 longsword come from? You didn't have it the last time I ran for you!")

Perhaps the rules say it should be done differently. But that rule is about as likely to get enforced as the once that requires the GM to check your math before they sign off on your chronicles, instead of just filling out gold, prestige, and XP you get from that session and then signing and handing them quickly before the game shop closes for the night.

Like the others said, Breath of Life doesn't give permanent negative levels. Raise Dead does, but after the end of game you can pay for as many as you like to be removed, since there isn't a set limit of the amount of time that passes between scenarios.

Scarab Sages

In the Guide to PFS Organized Play on page 21 it says "a GM must be present in order for you to purchase items" and "All transactions must be recorded on the scenario's Chronicle sheet and reflected on your character's Inventory Tracking Sheet." It may be implied that the GM is signing off on purchases but it doesn't explicitly say "GM must sign off on or initial each purchased item."

In any of the online games I've played everyone is posting in the hangout or roll20 chat what they plan to purchase before we start, but I've never had that info copy / pasted into the chronicle sheet the GM sends out to us afterward.

Liberty's Edge 5/5

Starfinder Superscriber

In fact, you don't have to record all transactions on the Chronicle Sheet. Yes, the Guide says that, but there was an update. Here is a blog post from John Compton that includes this:

Quote:
Although a player must record purchases on the ITS, a player need not also record an itemized list of purchases on the Chronicle sheet. A simple note of "Adventuring gear purchased—see ITS" or "bucket of wands—see ITS" will suffice.

What I've seen in practice, I have to admit, is not even this. However, the purchases that you make must go into your ITS (personally, I put everything there, not just stuff 25gp and more), and the accounting in the right boxes must be right (i.e. you must include the amount of the purchases in "Gold Spent").

5/5 5/55/55/5

My pet peve with the ITS is things that I don't know a good way to track things that you buy and use regularly.

Liberty's Edge 5/5

Starfinder Superscriber

For that, I just keep adding more lines, and crossing off the earlier ones when I've used enough up. It is a little chaotic. However, I also have my ITS in a spreadsheet (rather than on paper), so I can search if necessary. (For games at tables, I print it out, and amend it on paper, but then put the changes back into the spreadsheet later.)

This is the ITS I use. Anybody who wants can feel free to make a copy and use it.

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