Aasimar, re-skinning?


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Agathion-Blooded (Idyllkin) possess bestial aspects. Is there any limit to this as long as there is no mechanical benefit? I purchased a pretty rad rabbit samurai miniature at a local convention and thought it would make a cool PC (Very Usagi Yojimbo).

Description of Idyllkin:
Idyllkin often possess bestial qualities such as dragon scales, fish scales, fur, manes, or talons. Slit pupils, pronounced canines, and furry ears are all common indicators of an aasimar’s agathion background. Just as agathions take on different traits depending on their animal aspect, so too do idyllkin. Descendants of avorals often possess feathery hair and enjoy wide-open areas such as plains, while the progeny of leonals are aggressive and often have sharp, clawlike fingernails.

From http://paizo.com/PRD/additionalMonsters/agathion.html

About the different types of Agathion:
The following pages describe only a few of the best-known kinds of agathions, but other types exist, corresponding to other conventional animals (bears, dinosaurs, fish, wolves, and so on), with a few having shapes that resemble insects (particularly beetles, butterflies, and mantises); a handful resemble stranger creatures (such as basilisks and owlbears) or unique “animals” native to extreme environments on distant worlds.

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Seems legit. Go for it.

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The description of Idyllkin seems pretty clear to me, they possess bestial qualities, and then it gives some example of bestial qualities. Idyllkin do not have heads of animals, they have qualities of bestial creatures the Idyllkin pictured in Blood of Angels seems to have cat's eyes, and there is another picture in the book of what I can only assume is an Idyllkin with antlers.

Idyllkin Aasimars are not Beastbrood Tieflings, they do not have animal heads. You could have an Idyllkin with rabbit ears and maybe a rabbit nose, but not a full on rabbit head.

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Dylos wrote:
Idyllkin Aasimars are not Beastbrood Tieflings, they do not have animal heads. You could have an Idyllkin with rabbit ears and maybe a rabbit nose, but not a full on rabbit head.

So, Idyllkin are cosplay characters and not furries. Got it.

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Totenpfuhl wrote:
Dylos wrote:
Idyllkin Aasimars are not Beastbrood Tieflings, they do not have animal heads. You could have an Idyllkin with rabbit ears and maybe a rabbit nose, but not a full on rabbit head.
So, Idyllkin are cosplay characters and not furries. Got it.

The way I understand it yes, though the Beastbrood Tiefling is definitely a furry.

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Dylos wrote:
Beastbrood Tieflings

Ah! I didn't know Rakshasa were any animals but cats! Now I know (and ...knowing is half the battle). Excellent, thanks!

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Shooting Star wrote:
Dylos wrote:
Beastbrood Tieflings
Ah! I didn't know Rakshasa were any animals but cats! Now I know (and ...knowing is half the battle). Excellent, thanks!

Excerpt from Bestiary 3

Quote:
While there are many different types of rakshasas, from the lowly raktavarna to the powerful maharaja, the most commonly encountered members of this race (the rakshasas presented in the Pathfinder RPG Bestiary) are not known by any other name—they are more powerful than some members of their kind and less powerful than others, and represent the ideal midpoint between servitor and master. These rakshasas can be recognized by their animal heads (those of great cats, snakes, crocodiles, apes, and birds of prey being the most common) and backward-facing hands. Feral traits and strangely reversed joints are a hallmark of all types of rakshasas, in fact, features that most rakshasas can hide through their supernatural ability to change shapes or by means of powerful illusions.

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Blood of Fiends seems to suggest only a hint of animal features for Beastbrood.

Quote:

Beastbrood usually develop their distinctive traits after

childhood, often sometime during adolescence. Such
attributes usually hint at an animalistic nature, including
slit pupils, fangs, or coats of fur.

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You do not reskin PC races in PFS. Period.

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LazarX wrote:
You do not reskin PC races in PFS. Period.

I believe the question here is what skins the aasimar come in. Idyllkin come in somewhere on the sliding scale of furryness, but its not clear where the line is.


The OP is not asking to reskin to another race, which is what is forbidden in PFS.

The question is whether the PC can be made to resemble the miniature.

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Yeah, I don't see any reason that his PC couldn't resemble the mini. There's no limit, theoretically, to the "bestial features", as long as others can still make a Knowledge(planes) check to determine that he's an Aasimar, and he doesn't try to say to the GM "This is a bunny-person that has the stats of an Aasimar, but he's actually not one" then it should be fine.

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Aasimar reskinning is definitely an evil act, assuming it's something akin to this.

It should be noted as such on the PCs chronicle and force an atonement if the alignment shift makes them evil.

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I'd personally see it as a non-mechanical reskinning of a race, which the last time the subject was answered that I know of, it was a no.

LINK

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Walter Sheppard wrote:
Aasimar reskinning is definitely an evil act...

Measures the Lamb-Idyllkin Aasimar target. "Are you about a size 14?"

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Sniggevert wrote:

I'd personally see it as a non-mechanical reskinning of a race, which the last time the subject was answered that I know of, it was a no.

LINK

Allow me to rephrase. These Aasimar have bestial features. Is there any limit to the amount of bestial features one could have? For example, could an Idyllkin possess fur, manes, and talons?

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LazarX wrote:
You do not reskin PC races in PFS. Period.

Didn't read the thread, just the title, eh?

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Hey OP, just do it.
If you have a rad miniature, use it. I'd rather have someone use a cool mini that isn't exactly in line with their character than a lot of other alternatives.

If anything, you don't have to completely parrot everything on your miniature in terms of the description of your character. My wife and I usually put a lot of time into our character miniatures with custom conversions and nice paint jobs. That being said, even with all that work, our miniatures are rarely 100% accurate to the vision we have for our characters.

People use dice as their minis.
People use plastic markers and coins.
I play with some peeps who use lego guys/gals as their minis. That doesn't mean their characters have square bodies, can't twist at the waist and have gigantic yellow cylinder heads.

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Lamontius wrote:

I play with some peeps who use lego guys/gals as their minis. That doesn't mean their characters have square bodies, can't twist at the waist and have gigantic yellow cylinder heads.

My characters always have gigantic yellow cylinder heads! (I chose the 'Simpson' racial variant... "DOH!")

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Thanks all. Glad I posted here. The opinions were valued and I have another race to consider (thanks to Dylos).

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I remember considered making an "Anubis" Agathion and a "Coyote" at one point and stepped away from it in part because of just how 'bestial' an Agathion can be (also, had better character concepts).

So this seems to be an open question.

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