Witch Patrons and Spells


Rules Questions


Simple enough but with no clear answer in the books, errata or anywhere else that i can find. When your patron grants you a knew spell what spell level can you prepare it at?

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At 1st level, when a witch gains her familiar, she must also select a patron. This patron is a vague and mysterious force, granting the witch power for reasons that she might not entirely understand. While these forces need not be named, they typically hold influence over one of the following forces. At 2nd level, and every two levels thereafter, a witch's patron adds new spells to a witch's list of spells known. These spells are also automatically added to the list of spells stored by the familiar. Spells marked with an asterisk (*) appear in Chapter 5 of this book. The spells gained depend upon the patron chosen. Each patron is listed by its theme. Its actual name is up to the GM and the witch to decide.

So here is my interpretation of the way this works. There are exactly 9 spells in each patron given at every 2 levels starting at 2nd. So just counting up from the bottom as 1st, 2nd, 3rd level spells. Example is Ice Storm from winter patron is a level 4 witch spell. Its the third one on the list means i can cast it as a 3rd level spell. Shadow conjuration from the shadow patron I get at level 8 but isnt actually on my spell list so it doesnt tell me what level I can prepare it so going by my conclusion RaI its a 4th level spell for being 4th on the list or 1/2 the level i learned it at. Am i right on this assumption?


Yup.


You basically get your patron powers 1 lvl after you can. Astronomy a level of spells. So if you get a patron power at 8 it's a lvl 4 spell

Liberty's Edge

I "love" when someone change the level of a spell without saying it. Technically the rules don't say anywhere what is the level of the spell that you get from your patron, so it would default to its "standard" level (woe it has different level for different classes).

In this particular situation it seem logic to lower the level of the spell, but on the other hand there is no reason why a witch with a winter patron should be the only class that get that benefit.

Seeing how this is the same book in which we find the Ice Tomb hex, with all of its holes, I suspect it is an oversight of the writer of the winter teemed witch, not an intended change.

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