What can a cleric do about swarms?


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I am a 5th level Madness/Deception cleric, so as I said my domains aren't a lot of help here. Stone shape my let me drop a ceiling square on them, but thats very kuch a GM disvretion thing. Looks like some flasks will be my only friends for swarms.


And Wind Wall (Cleric 3). Swarms of tiny or smaller creatures just can't pass a Wind Wall.


Artanthos wrote:
Kobold Cleaver wrote:
Basically, if you want to go by strict, raw RAW, it's debateable. Even then, I think I've won once or twice, but the strict, raw RAW is dumb anyways. ;)

Swarms 150% damage from splash weapons, not to be confused with the single point of splash damage dealt on a miss.

Swarms wrote:
A swarm takes half again as much damage (+50%) from spells or effects that affect an area, such as splash weapons and many evocation spells.
Emphasis mine.

Exactly what I said. ;)


People suggesting alchemist's fire really should take a step back and rethink it when advising low level players (Dunno if the original poster is such)

It sounds great on paper, but most swarms have great touch AC's... and most clerics have lousy ranged touch attacks.... so basically they're just throwing money away using them, for a whopping 1 point of damage (that includes the 50% increase).

There's nothing more disappointing them watching alchemists fire miss 'cause the swarm has a 16+ touch ac. It happens far more then it does not.

If you want a fun option... use Skyrockets ... bit pricey... but they can't miss (though a reflex for half), and have the option of hitting more then one thing! And not sure if you can blind a swarm, but if so, that'd help even if you don't kill it. Channel your inner goblin!

Alternately, you might be able to use summon monster.
A fire elemental might not do damage, but if they bite it (which they do if its in their space), they'll take burn damage.
An air elemental might be able to hoover them up with its whirlwind ability.
Would a Lantern Archon's 'Aura of Menace' ability keep a swarm at bay? Its a will save, but nothing says its mind affecting... so not sure.

Scarab Sages

EvilMinion wrote:
People suggesting alchemist's fire really should take a step back and rethink it when advising low level players (Dunno if the original poster is such)

My oracle carries acid. Half the price and just as effective.


Seems flaming/frost/shocking/corrosive weapons no longer work. So it seems any individually targeted thing (fire or not) fails. Alas - wand of sound burst it is !!

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