Combing archetypes that modify "Bonus Feat" and "Bonus Feats" legal?

[Katydid]

Gut instinct tells me no, but still unsure if this is allowed. Can a character take an archetype that modifies the bonus feat list, and another that replaces it?

Specifically, I was looking at dipping into the Master of Many Styles and Monk of the Seven Winds archetypes.

[Pupsocket]

Strict RAW, no.

PFS, no.

Should a reasonable GM allow it? Sure.

[Diminuendo]

I would say no in this specific case because you are effectively trading access to Improved Disarm, Improved Feint, Improved Grapple, and Improved Trip for access to the Seven Winds Monks feats. If you don't have the feats to trade you don't get to use the additional archetype.

[Katydid]

Bother. What I wanted was the other way around, though. I was hoping the standard bonus feat list would simply change due to Seven Winds, then be completely replaced by the broader Master of Many Styles feats. So, end result gives absolutely no access to Seven Winds feats but only replacement Style feats, which is the only reason most would want to dip monk in the first place. Only possible interpretation from the overlapping feat descriptions, really.

RAW application doesn't seem plausible from what I've heard so far. :(

[Andreas Forster]

I would also say no in this case.

First applying Master of Many Styles is very obvious, because the feats the Monk of the Seven Winds wants to replace aren't there anymore.
If you first apply Monk of the Seven Winds, your list of bonus feats isn't the "standard list of monk bonus feats" anymore, so Master of Many Styles wouldn't be able to find what he wants to replace.

[Eridan]

PRD APG wrote:

A character can take more than one archetype and garner additional alternate class features, but none of the alternate class features can replace or alter the same class feature from the core class as another alternate class feature.

No is the answer.

[James Risner]

Eridan wrote:

PRD APG wrote:

A character can take more than one archetype and garner additional alternate class features, but none of the alternate class features can replace or alter the same class feature from the core class as another alternate class feature.

No is the answer.

+1

But you probably wouldn't believe how many people will argue that adding something to something isn't replacing or altering it.

[Joe loves Rules]

It's true. By RAW, you couldn't even take two archetypes that modify something in the exact same way.