Advise for creating a capstone for Zen Archer

[Monkeygod]

ZA does not get one, and it seems silly to me that with such a drastic change to their focus, that they should still gain Perfect Self.

I was thinking about something like

One with the Bow:
The Zen Archer has achieved total oneness with his bow. Choose one ranged weapon that you have both Weapon Focus and Weapon Specialization for. You now add you Dex to your Wisdom in order to hit and your Wisdom to your damage with that bow.

I'm also thinking of allowing some sort of special ability tied to spending Ki points, but no clue what.

[Name Violation]

wis to damage, and deal unarmed damage without spending a ki point is a start...

by 20th their to hit and the damage are both really low..

Also, ignoring wind/ water based miss chance would be cool. "I fire into the heart of the hurricane"

[Bertious]

ZA's get the same capstone all monks get as I don't think archetypes change capstone abilities Perfect Self

[LazarX]

The Zen Archer is still fundamentally a monk. The existing capstone is just fine. If you're looking to play someone that's an archer and nothing else, roll a fighter.

[Monkeygod]

LazarX wrote:

The Zen Archer is still fundamentally a monk. The existing capstone is just fine. If you're looking to play someone that's an archer and nothing else, roll a fighter.

Expect I really don't think Perfect Self really fits with a Zen Archer. What about becoming an Outsider makes sense for a Zen Archer??

several of the other abilities that lend themselves to being a "magical creature" are replaced: Purity of Body, Diamond Soul and Tongue of the Sun and Moon are all changed to something else. So if those are gone, why keep Perfect Self?

[Name Violation]

i think changing more is necessary. monks are super weak after like 8th level.

granted, you can have damn near every archery feat you'll ever need by then (zen archers have like 12 feats by 6th level), but the to hit gets so low (especially with deadly aim) that you dont hit anything