Rod of Ascendant Spell price?


Homebrew and House Rules


So, the Quicken Rod is the only +4 rod in the SRD, and Ascendant Spell is the only +5 metamagic feat in the PF SRD.

While a quadratic regression (using the price as a function of spell level increase) gives a price of 54,900 for the minor, 106,000 for the normal, and 240,250 for the major, it goes without saying that math is merely a guideline for a base price, and that GM discretion is the best method for pricing a magic item.

So, what sounds like a good price for Metamagic Rods of Ascendant Spell?

Mitigating factors to consider:

  • Though the spell acts like its mythic version, it is not actually considered mythic unless the caster is mythic, so, for example, your Ascendant disintegrate is stopped by a 4th-tier caster's mythic globe of invulnerability, whereas a mythic disintegrate from an actual mythic character would not be stopped.

  • Even mythic casters cannot augment a spell modified by this rod.

  • Several spells have mythic versions that are completely useless to nonmythic characters (because all extra benefits are based on the caster's tier):
    ablative barrier
    animate dead
    anticipate peril
    antimagic field
    grease
    magic fang
    murderous command
    saving finale
    sending
    shield of faith
    theft ward
    time stop
    touch injection
    transformation

  • In addition, an even larger number of spells have very little additional benefit unless the caster has mythic tiers.

    Reasons characters would want this rod anyway

  • The obvious (mythic version of many spells are more powerful than the nonmythic version even given the limitations of the feat and the tier dependency of many benefits).

  • It gives mythic characters a degree of flexibility, allowing them to effectively circumvent the restrictions on mythic spells known for a few times each day, albeit without the ability to augment them.

    So, what are your suggestions? I feel of course that the Legendary Crafter mythic feat should be required to make the rod, but what would be a good price?


  • This was covered in a thread months ago, sorry for a late response have been piled with things to do. The pricing is about right (Considering a fighter can get a +5 vorpal sword for 200k, and would have 40k worth of room left over to slap a mythic ability on it.) & yes add Legendary Crafter to it.

    Community / Forums / Pathfinder / Pathfinder First Edition / Homebrew and House Rules / Rod of Ascendant Spell price? All Messageboards

    Want to post a reply? Sign in.
    Recent threads in Homebrew and House Rules