|
Your labour gets paid less than it is worth and you get taxed on the remainder...but what if?
What if your labour was the tax you pay to the state and the state is thus benefiting from all employment, even indirectly. So the state having benefited from your million dollar of toil over a lifetime is obliged to remunerate you to the full value of your labour payable in resources, a seat in parliament, a roof over your head?
Could I be paid in mangos and a wind turbine?
The hole in the ground sounds interesting, but I'm not interested in any stepped on product.
This is beginning to sound familiar...
Does the state have lines to collect potatoes and vodka?
Not sure if actual thread or horse_ebooks post.
| 1 person marked this as a favorite. |
So the state having benefited from your million dollar of toil over a lifetime is obliged to remunerate you to the full value of your labour payable in resources,
I'd trust my MBA-toting, Dale Carnegie-quoting huckster of a boss to reimburse my labor fairly long before I trust the likes of you.
a seat in parliament,
So... Either it's an impractically big parliament building, each citizen occupies the seat for a grand total of seven minutes, or this is more empty "Power to the people" rhetoric.
a roof over your head?
Khrushchyovka is how animals live, not humans. No thanks, comrade.
Your labour gets paid less than it is worth and you get taxed on the remainder...but what if?
1.
Labour gets paid less than it's worth... L* = how much it's worth.
.. L = how much it gets paid at a lower level
.. L* - L = the difference. Is this an Asset on your Balance Sheet?
No. But, let's roll along inside your world and say
.. C = L* - L, where C is cash on your Balance Sheet.
So, you have C more dollars. But now we get taxed.
.. T = tax
.. so (1-T) is after tax (what you get to keep)
Thus, by paying Labor L instead of L* you have more money of amount
.. (1-T)*C <-- your extra money.
What if your labour was the tax you pay to the state and the state is thus benefiting from all employment, even indirectly. So the state having benefited from your million dollar of toil over a lifetime is obliged to remunerate you to the full value of your labour payable in resources, a seat in parliament, a roof over your head?
2.
Labor is your tax, so.. L = tax
.. assume L = $1 million
The State is pure Cost. (All government is only Cost). The State costs
S to run, so
.. S = cost of state
.. L - S = what the state has left to remunerate you.
But,
.. L-S < L, so "they" can never actually pay for the labor so it can eat,
and have a place to live, and have babies.
.. Your World Dies ..
.
Also, in your mind what is the connection between parts 1. and 2. ?
| 1 person marked this as a favorite. |
I'll do it, Comrade Dingo. You can pay me in cocaine.
|
|
Your labour gets paid less than it is worth and you get taxed on the remainder...but what if?
1.
Labour gets paid less than it's worth.
.. L* = how much it's worth.
.. L = how much it gets paid at a lower level
.. L* - L = the difference. Is this an Asset on your Balance Sheet?
No. But, let's roll along inside your world and say
.. C = L* - L, where C is cash on your Balance Sheet.So, you have C more dollars. But now we get taxed.
.. T = tax
.. so (1-T) is after tax (what you get to keep)Thus, by paying Labor L instead of L* you have more money of amount
.. (1-T)*C <-- your extra money.
What if your labour was the tax you pay to the state and the state is thus benefiting from all employment, even indirectly. So the state having benefited from your million dollar of toil over a lifetime is obliged to remunerate you to the full value of your labour payable in resources, a seat in parliament, a roof over your head?2.
Labor is your tax, so
.. L = tax.. assume L = $1 million
The State is pure Cost. (All government is only Cost). The State costs
S to run, so.. S = cost of state
.. L - S = what the state has left to remunerate you.But,
.. L-S < L, so "they" can never actually pay for the labor so it can eat,
and have a place to live, and have babies... Your World Dies ..
.
Also, in your mind what is the connection between parts 1. and 2. ?
Your employer pays you less than your labour is worth thus allowing the employer to get rich off your toil. What little remuneration you get is taxed by the state.
Now if we consider your labour to be the tax paid to benefit the state then we must require the state to remunerate you to the full value of your labour. So if your labour is worth a million dollars tax the state must remunerate you the full value of your labour.
Obviously there is an obligation of the state to generate an income from the resource of the labour you pay as tax that exceeds its costs and obligation to remunerate you. It would thus use your labour tax to build say wind turbines to generate exportable energy and mine minerals.
Obviously there is an obligation of the state to generate an income from the resource of the labour you pay as tax that exceeds its costs and obligation to remunerate you. It would thus use your labour tax to build say wind turbines to generate exportable energy and mine minerals.stuff ...
A. The State "generates excess income" you say?? Well, then it wouldn't
be a State, it would be a Corporation. (which is ok with me -- so thiscould work.)
B. State "generates excess income". Ok. Where does the State get the
Labor it needs? Let's call the State's needed labor L'. Who is feeding L'? (L' is a Cost)
Oh, the State is feeding them from it's "generated excess income" which
is being produced by consuming Natural Resource.
How is this a different economy ?
Your employer pays you less than your labour is worth thus allowing the employer to get rich off your toil. What little remuneration you get is taxed by the state.stuff...
.
This is called Slave Labor. This is illegal, and the root of bloody revolutions. So, unsustainable.
.
| 1 person marked this as a favorite. |
Mexican cocaine and Mexican hookers and I'm all yours, Comrade Dingo. I'll work at a wind turbine factory, I'll grow mangoes, I'll rough up counterrevolutionaries [pushes Citizen Magus out of the thread], as long as I'm to be fully renumerated, I'm ready for duty.
Now if we consider your labour to be the tax paid to benefit the state then we must require the state to remunerate you to the full value of your labour. So if your labour is worth a million dollars tax the state must remunerate you the full value of your labour.
But,.. L-S < L, so "they" can never actually pay for the labor so it can eat,
and have a place to live, and have babies... Your World Dies ..
.
Your "State" can only do this if
1. It is a Corporation, or
2. It uses slave labor.
Thus, not a State. (just another group of thugs demanding a cut)
.
| 2 people marked this as a favorite. |
Mexican cocaine and Mexican hookers and I'm all yours, Comrade Dingo. I'll work at a wind turbine factory, I'll grow mangoes, I'll rough up counterrevolutionaries [pushes Citizen Magus out of the thread], as long as I'm to be fully renumerated, I'm ready for duty.
I'm not sure it would be wise to let a cocained goblin handle powertools, let alone build wind turbines.
Only if we pay them in quatloos.
Mexican cocaine and Mexican hookers and I'm all yours, Comrade Dingo. I'll work at a wind turbine factory, I'll grow mangoes, I'll rough up counterrevolutionaries [pushes Citizen Magus out of the thread], as long as I'm to be fully renumerated, I'm ready for duty.I'm not sure it would be wise to let a cocained goblin handle powertools, let alone build wind turbines.
[Pushes Comrade van der Kroft out of the thread]
|
|
Now if we consider your labour to be the tax paid to benefit the state then we must require the state to remunerate you to the full value of your labour. So if your labour is worth a million dollars tax the state must remunerate you the full value of your labour.
But,.. L-S < L, so "they" can never actually pay for the labor so it can eat,
and have a place to live, and have babies... Your World Dies ..
.
Your "State" can only do this if
1. It is a Corporation, or
2. It uses slave labor.Thus, not a State. (just another group of thugs demanding a cut)
.
You look in through the window at kids with their Christmas presents and think Christmas looks neat this year...
Mexican cocaine and Mexican hookers and I'm all yours, Comrade Dingo. I'll work at a wind turbine factory, I'll grow mangoes, I'll rough up counterrevolutionaries [pushes Citizen Magus out of the thread], as long as I'm to be fully renumerated, I'm ready for duty.I'm not sure it would be wise to let a cocained goblin handle powertools, let alone build wind turbines.
It will work itself out quick enough, tbo.