For flavor, I was hoping to using vanishing trick during a move action instead of right before and describe it as an after image effect in game.
So the question is , can you use a swift action during another action?
You can take a swift action any time you are able to take a free action, so it would appear that you can.
Sweet, thanks.
Thinking about it, that would have an interesting synergy with Quicken Spell; being able to move from cover, cast while you have line of sight, then finish movement within cover? Handy.
No the swift action have to be before or after the move. Just agree with the GM that you dissaper Half a second later for flavor when that would be cool.
No the swift action have to be before or after the move. Just agree with the GM that you dissaper Half a second later for flavor when that would be cool.
Can you tell me per raw why?
I believe your only restriction is that you can only take your swift action during your turn, and not outside of it during the rounds. By RAW, you just go look up your free actions accessibility, and match up the boundaries there.
Can you tell me per raw why?No the swift action have to be before or after the move. Just agree with the GM that you dissaper Half a second later for flavor when that would be cool.
No it may be a brain fart or a rule from a previous edition. But allowing free actions that are not part of a bigger action, like loading a gun in a full attack is, opens up for silly stuff that is Best contained.
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I am ALL about the silly. Silly me silly
Now i looked closer. One of the free action discriptions say "as part of another action." But dosent tell us how it Work and in the full discriptions there is nothing about interrupting your own actions with free actions.
Cap. Darling hasn't really presented any arguments other than "I don't like it". There are plenty of free actions already in the game the interrupt other actions.
For free actions it will depend on the action, even though the general answer is yes. As an example you can talk(free action) while doing another action, but if you are casting a spell, with a verbal component it would not make sense to be speaking normally also.
So if you have to stop one action to do another most GM's will say not, but if they are not interrupting the other action it will normally be ok.
Just remember that even if the "After image" is allowed that it will be flavor/fluff, and it wont grant any in-game benefits without GM permission.
PS: The particular move action may determine if you can use vanishing trick at the same time. Most likely doing them at the same time won't give you a mechanical advantage so it may not matter.
free actions: as many at any time
immediate actions: uses next turns swift action, can be used at any time
swift actions: can do at any time but only 1 per turn.
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