PFS credit from APs


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So, I have actually never played PFS before, but I have been thinking about it for a while. I just read through the Skull and Shackles information regarding applying it to PFS, and it said this:

"Alternatively, if you are participating in the Skull
& Shackles Adventure Path with an ongoing group
undertaking the entire, six-chapter campaign, you may
receive credit for playing the sanctioned portions of the
adventure as if you had played a pregenerated character.
In this case, GMs running the Adventure Path are not
bound to the rules of the Pathfinder Society Organized
Play campaign (such as 20-point buy, unavailability of
hero points, etc.) when running the campaign or the
sanctioned portion of the adventure. Pathfinder Society
characters and characters from an ongoing Adventure
Path campaign may not play in the same adventure."

I'm GMing S&S. Does this mean that when my group and I complete the AP, we can apply credit towards a PFS character? Do I have to have a PFS completed first? And how do I go about doing that? Do I have to submit it somehow?

Scarab Sages 4/5

As I understand it, each chapter will have a sanctioned part that can give you a chronicle sheet. With Rise of the Runelords it is Thistletop in chapter one, Foxglove manor in chapter two etc. When you run THOSE parts you can print out a chronicle that you can apply to a new PFS char. You will get a lot of gold and access to gear plus I think 3 xp wich should level you up If I am wrong I am sure someone will set it straight :)

This sheet can be applied to any PFS char you want ... even your first one. just show up to a PFS event with the printed out choronicle sheet and tell them what you want to do. The GM should be able to help you out from there.

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So that applies to the GM too, right?

Grand Lodge 4/5 ** Venture-Agent, Colorado—Denver

I'm running a PFS sanctioned Reign of Winter AP. I'm running it like a homestyle campaign. Doing each book all the way through with some side treks here & there. To keep things simple, I had each player create a PFS legal character but we use hero points and the crit & fumble decks (sparingly). After each book, I ask the players which of their other PFS characters would like credit for the AP so that I can report it and give them a chronicle sheet. They are awarded 3 xp & 4 pp on each chronicle and will apply this to an in-tier PFS pc.

Grand Lodge 4/5 ** Venture-Agent, Colorado—Denver

Yes, the GM gets a chronicle sheet, too.

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roll4initiative wrote:
I'm running a PFS sanctioned Reign of Winter AP. I'm running it like a homestyle campaign. Doing each book all the way through with some side treks here & there. To keep things simple, I had each player create a PFS legal character but we use hero points and the crit & fumble decks (sparingly). After each book, I ask the players which of their other PFS characters would like credit for the AP so that I can report it and give them a chronicle sheet. They are awarded 3 xp & 4 pp on each chronicle and will apply this to an in-tier PFS pc.

So how do I report it?

And thanks for your help!

Silver Crusade Venture-Agent, Florida–Altamonte Springs

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In the area where you see your characters there is a tab for events. Create an event (start on a certain day) get your players pfs info and assign it the event number that is generated. Oh, and don't forget to report at the same place you get the event code. I've been harping on my brother for the Carrion Crown book 1 (the Haunting of Harrowstone) cert Chronicle and we are running through book 2 atm.

Sovereign Court 3/5 ****

I'm in the same boat as the OP. When creating the event, should I put the date that we finish the sanctioned content? We started a month or 2 ago, and just finished up last week.

Thanks

Edit: Also, the guide says "as if you had played a pregenerated character". What level is that considered to be? In other words, at what level do you get to apply the chronicle? Assuming you aren't applying it to a first level character that is.

Thanks x2

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I haven't run a campaign-mode AP (yet) but I'd guess that the level range is whatever is printed at the top right of the sheet, same as any other chronicle.

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glass wrote:


I haven't run a campaign-mode AP (yet) but I'd guess that the level range is whatever is printed at the top right of the sheet, same as any other chronicle.

Yup!

5/5 5/55/5 ** Venture-Captain, Germany—Hamburg

Talon Stormwarden wrote:
Also, the guide says "as if you had played a pregenerated character". What level is that considered to be? In other words, at what level do you get to apply the chronicle?

You apply at the minimum level for the chronicle if the character you want to apply it to is lower than minimum level when you gain the chronicle. If you apply it to a character within the chronicle's level range, you just apply it immediately. It's actually more like "as if holding GM credit", but I suppose saying that would create more confusion than problem-solving.

Of course, if you actually played a pregen while playing just the sanctioned part (meaning "not in campaign mode"), you use the sandard rules for applying pregen credit.

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Talon Stormwarden wrote:
I'm in the same boat as the OP. When creating the event, should I put the date that we finish the sanctioned content? We started a month or 2 ago, and just finished up last week.

Presumably you dated the chronicles with the current date when you handed them out at the end of the sanctioned section; use the same date in the online reporting.

When you create an event (to get an event number) the dates you fill in are irrelevant; that information is only used to populate the PFS event calendar on this site.

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Edit: Also, the guide says "as if you had played a pregenerated character". What level is that considered to be? In other words, at what level do you get to apply the chronicle? Assuming you aren't applying it to a first level character that is.

Use the level range given on the chronicle. So if it's 8-10, apply to an 8th, 9th, or 10th level PC immediately, or assign to a lower level PC, to be applied as soon as they reach 8th level. As stated above, it works pretty much the same way as GM credit.

Scarab Sages 5/5 5/5 *** Venture-Captain, Netherlands

We are currently going trough Jade Regent, and I was wondering, only I and another player actively participate in PFS. Normally, you need four players to make a table legal. Can we still get the credit when I report the event? Or do I have to persuade the other players to at least sign up as well?

Liberty's Edge 4/5 5/5

Woran: you have two ways to approach this.

1. Report only those people who are already active PFS participants.

2. Hand out cards with pregenerated PFS numbers to the other players, telling them there is zero obligation for them to actually play PFS, and use those numbers to report their participation.

Scarab Sages 5/5 5/5 *** Venture-Captain, Netherlands

Paz wrote:

Woran: you have two ways to approach this.

1. Report only those people who are already active PFS participants.

2. Hand out cards with pregenerated PFS numbers to the other players, telling them there is zero obligation for them to actually play PFS, and use those numbers to report their participation.

Ah, so it is possible to report an AP without having 4 or more players. That is good to know.

How do you pregenerate PFS numbers? I assume I just dont make accounts for those people. But I am interested in getting them the Chronicles, because I think at least two of them will start playing PFS once their scedule allows it.

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Woran wrote:

Ah, so it is possible to report an AP without having 4 or more players. That is good to know.

How do you pregenerate PFS numbers? I assume I just dont make accounts for those people. But I am interested in getting them the Chronicles, because I think at least two of them will start playing PFS once their scedule allows it.

1) https://secure.paizo.com/pathfinderSociety/myAccount

2) Click on GM/Event Coordinator
3) Scroll down to Pathfinder Society Cards
4) Click the button for 10 printable cards

R

Scarab Sages 5/5 5/5 *** Venture-Captain, Netherlands

R D wrote:


1) https://secure.paizo.com/pathfinderSociety/myAccount
2) Click on GM/Event Coordinator
3) Scroll down to Pathfinder Society Cards
4) Click the button for 10 printable cards

R

The GM/Event coordinator tab is empty for me except for the create event button. I suppose other options will show up there once I've actually got something to report :)

Grand Lodge 4/5

Yup. Once you create an event the other stuff shows up.

Scarab Sages 5/5 5/5 *** Venture-Captain, Netherlands

Thanks everyone. I was keen to know as we are making good progress trough the brinewall legacy, so I will be able to give them the chronicles soon.

Sovereign Court 3/5 ****

Paz wrote:
Presumably you dated the chronicles with the current date when you handed them out at the end of the sanctioned section; use the same date in the online reporting.

Well, we were done except for a little bit of wrap up...and we were going to do that this week, which unfortunately got cancelled.

However, I'm pre-filling the event online in anticipation of finishing up (hopefully next week) and I noticed that it's only giving me 2 prestige as the GM. I'm allowed to fill in prestige for the players, but the GM prestige appears to be system generated.

Am I missing something? Do GMs get less PP than players? Or have I done something wrong?

Thanks again folks.

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You get 4, it's just a bug in the reporting system.
Don't fret about it.

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Paz wrote:
Talon Stormwarden wrote:
I'm in the same boat as the OP. When creating the event, should I put the date that we finish the sanctioned content? We started a month or 2 ago, and just finished up last week.

Presumably you dated the chronicles with the current date when you handed them out at the end of the sanctioned section; use the same date in the online reporting.

When you create an event (to get an event number) the dates you fill in are irrelevant; that information is only used to populate the PFS event calendar on this site.

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Edit: Also, the guide says "as if you had played a pregenerated character". What level is that considered to be? In other words, at what level do you get to apply the chronicle? Assuming you aren't applying it to a first level character that is.
Use the level range given on the chronicle. So if it's 8-10, apply to an 8th, 9th, or 10th level PC immediately, or assign to a lower level PC, to be applied as soon as they reach 8th level. As stated above, it works pretty much the same way as GM credit.

Ok, so Book 1 of Skull and Shackles says Levels 2-4. So if I make a Level 1 PFS character and get him to Level 2, I can then apply the credit from GMing Book 1 to boost that character up to Level 3? Is that correct?

Grand Lodge 4/5

mbauers wrote:
Paz wrote:
Talon Stormwarden wrote:
I'm in the same boat as the OP. When creating the event, should I put the date that we finish the sanctioned content? We started a month or 2 ago, and just finished up last week.

Presumably you dated the chronicles with the current date when you handed them out at the end of the sanctioned section; use the same date in the online reporting.

When you create an event (to get an event number) the dates you fill in are irrelevant; that information is only used to populate the PFS event calendar on this site.

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Edit: Also, the guide says "as if you had played a pregenerated character". What level is that considered to be? In other words, at what level do you get to apply the chronicle? Assuming you aren't applying it to a first level character that is.
Use the level range given on the chronicle. So if it's 8-10, apply to an 8th, 9th, or 10th level PC immediately, or assign to a lower level PC, to be applied as soon as they reach 8th level. As stated above, it works pretty much the same way as GM credit.
Ok, so Book 1 of Skull and Shackles says Levels 2-4. So if I make a Level 1 PFS character and get him to Level 2, I can then apply the credit from GMing Book 1 to boost that character up to Level 3? Is that correct?

You'd apply the credit as soon as you were done GMing, and then it would kick in as soon as the PC hit level 2.

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Paz wrote:
Use the level range given on the chronicle. So if it's 8-10, apply to an 8th, 9th, or 10th level PC immediately

Can you, actually? The Guide says:

GtoP wrote:
You may not apply a Chronicle sheet earned with a pregenerated character to a character that was already at the level of the pregenerated character or higher, as you should have used this character for the scenario instead.

...and I am not seeing an exception for campaign mode. Unless you consider "as you should have used this character for the scenario instead" to make an implicit exception in circumstances such as this where you can't use the same character, but that seems like a bit of a stretch.

glass.

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glass wrote:
Paz wrote:
Use the level range given on the chronicle. So if it's 8-10, apply to an 8th, 9th, or 10th level PC immediately
Can you, actually?

Yes, you apply the chronicles just like GM credit.

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Thanks for all of your responses! Of course, each one sparks another question, hehe.

So, starting gold is 150. Suppose you create a character who completes a module and gains 100 gp. Does he now have 250 gp on his chronicle sheet? Also, suppose a 4-person party gets an item worth 4,000 gp and sells it for 2,000. They all get 500 gp for this, but the maximum for first level characters is 417. Does the GM put 417 gp for all 4 of the characters?

Also, is there a place where max gold per level is found? I couldn't find it.

Finally, suppose I run a first level character and get him to second level, and along the way get the maximum gold for level 2 (which I believe is 1,536). Now I want to apply my GM credit from running The Wormwood Mutiny to make him Level 3. Does he get any gold for that, or is he still at 1,536? Also, does he get the same items unlocked on his Chronicle sheet as the PCs for the game in which I GMed?

Thanks again!

Liberty's Edge 4/5 5/5

I'm assuming this first batch of questions is about 'normal' PFS play, rather than adventure paths...

mbauers wrote:
So, starting gold is 150. Suppose you create a character who completes a module and gains 100 gp. Does he now have 250 gp on his chronicle sheet?

Yes... if you spent none of your starting gold (which is unlikely). The gold on your chronicles is a running total, so you'd need to subtract whatever you spent of your starting gold.

(Also your gold reward would almost never be as low as 100 gp; usually in the 400-550 gp region for subtier 1-2.)

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Also, suppose a 4-person party gets an item worth 4,000 gp and sells it for 2,000. They all get 500 gp for this, but the maximum for first level characters is 417. Does the GM put 417 gp for all 4 of the characters?

The max gold on the chronicle reflects the PCs successfully capturing and liquidating for gold everything they find in the adventure. The PCs never get more than this max gold. Selling things during the scenario (because they need the cash for something vital) is just the PCs getting their reward early; it doesn't add to the reward on the chronicle sheet.

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Also, is there a place where max gold per level is found? I couldn't find it.

No, because every scenario has slightly different rewards.

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Finally, suppose I run a first level character and get him to second level, and along the way get the maximum gold for level 2 (which I believe is 1,536).

It's definitely more than that, but let's carry on...

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Now I want to apply my GM credit from running The Wormwood Mutiny to make him Level 3. Does he get any gold for that, or is he still at 1,536?

He gets the max gold on the chronicle sheet (appropriate for his level). So if you GM a tier 1-5 scenario and apply credit to a 5th-level PC, you'd get the subtier 4-5 gold. Modules/APs only have one subtier, so it's simple for them.

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Also, does he get the same items unlocked on his Chronicle sheet as the PCs for the game in which I GMed?

He gets access to all items appropriate for his level. So if you GM a tier 1-5 scenario and apply credit to a 3rd-level PC, you'd get access to the subtier 1-2 items. Again, it's simple for Modules/APs as they only have one subtier.

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paz wrote:
I'm assuming this first batch of questions is about 'normal' PFS play, rather than adventure paths...

Yep, I want to create a first level guy and either play or GM to get him to 2nd level so I can apply the credit from Wormwood Mutiny to that character.

paz wrote:
Yes... if you spent none of your starting gold (which is unlikely). The gold on your chronicles is a running total, so you'd need to subtract whatever you spent of your starting gold.

Hmm, this point confuses me. Suppose for simplicity's sake I bought a chain shirt (100 gp) and a heavy crossbow (50 gp)--hey, it's cool, I'll try to steal some bolts during play ;-) Then during the first PFS module I play, I get 200 gp. What happens to the 150 gp of my starting equipment? Do I have to "sell" it for 75 gp, so I'd have 275 gp to buy stuff for the next module? Or do items carry over on my sheet once I've purchased them (So I'd have my 150 gp worth of items and an additional 200 gp)?

paz wrote:
The max gold on the chronicle reflects the PCs successfully capturing and liquidating for gold everything they find in the adventure. The PCs never get more than this max gold. Selling things during the scenario (because they need the cash for something vital) is just the PCs getting their reward early; it doesn't add to the reward on the chronicle sheet.

Hmm, so as a GM, how do I know how much gold they get? I thought it was based off of the coinage that they get and the items they sell, but your point here makes it seem as though they get a monetary reward for completing adventures.

paz and mbauers wrote:

Also, is there a place where max gold per level is found? I couldn't find it.

No, because every scenario has slightly different rewards.

The Wormwood Mutiny Chronicle sheet says max gold is 3,711. Are you saying that's just the maximum you can earn from that adventure and not the maximum you could have at Level 4? So there's really no maximum per level? I guess that makes sense since you can only play a few scenarios per level anyway.

The below quote seems to support this point:

paz wrote:

Now I want to apply my GM credit from running The Wormwood Mutiny to make him Level 3. Does he get any gold for that, or is he still at 1,536?

He gets the max gold on the chronicle sheet (appropriate for his level). So if you GM a tier 1-5 scenario and apply credit to a 5th-level PC, you'd get the subtier 4-5 gold. Modules/APs only have one subtier, so it's simple for them.

Thanks again! I think I'm starting to get it!

Liberty's Edge 4/5 5/5

mbauers wrote:
Hmm, this point confuses me. Suppose for simplicity's sake I bought a chain shirt (100 gp) and a heavy crossbow (50 gp)--hey, it's cool, I'll try to steal some bolts during play ;-) Then during the first PFS module I play, I get 200 gp. What happens to the 150 gp of my starting equipment? Do I have to "sell" it for 75 gp, so I'd have 275 gp to buy stuff for the next module? Or do items carry over on my sheet once I've purchased them (So I'd have my 150 gp worth of items and an additional 200 gp)?

You keep the equipment you've bought. That's what the Inventory Tracking Sheet is for - see the last page of the Guide to PFS Organised Play PDF.

paz wrote:
Hmm, so as a GM, how do I know how much gold they get? I thought it was based off of the coinage that they get and the items they sell, but your point here makes it seem as though they get a monetary reward for completing adventures.

Yeah, thankfully PFS Org Play neatly sidesteps that whole bartering/dividing loot time-sink. Anything you find during the adventure can be used during the session, but goes *poof* at the end of the scenario and automatically gets converted into the gold on the chronicle sheet.

If PCs defeat/find everything they get the max gold for the scenario. Scenarios list the amount to reduce this max gold by if the PCs avoid/retreat from particular encounters.

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The Wormwood Mutiny Chronicle sheet says max gold is 3,711. Are you saying that's just the maximum you can earn from that adventure

That's exactly what I'm saying.

If you've not played PFS before then playing a session or two with an experienced PFS GM should make things much clearer.

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Threadomancy as I'm now about to hit Level 2 in PFS.

So, my group is/was running through Skull and Shackles VERY slowly as we can't play very often. We finished Book 1 two years ago and have almost entirely stopped now in Book 3.

Can I retroactively report Books 1 and 2 for PFS credit as an ongoing campaign and apply that credit to my character now, even though he was only created recently (and after we did the S&S campaign)?

Thanks!

Liberty's Edge 4/5 5/5

No, for a couple of reasons:

- You never get retroactive credit for games run in the past; they have to be recognised by the group as PFS sanctioned games at the time.
- None of Skull and Shackles was even sanctioned until about a year ago, so nobody who ran parts before that time could get PFS credit for them.

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