OK it is 1am and I cant sleep because my new neighbours have a puppy or a small dog, pretty sure its a puppy but it is crying our side right now no stop. it a little heartbreaking. I have not called the police yet because I don't want to start a feud just yet. I would talk to them but the house they live in is a converted apartment house not sure which one is them. My sense motive and past experience with this sort of thing tells me that the direct good neighbour approach will end poorly.
So what if I found a good home with some one that wants a dog and does not care to much about where it came from?
Help me justify/ talk me out of this plan.
Also any one want a small and or young dog it white and brown does not like being out side by itself late at night. does not seem to eat much.
Call the police.
If you're in an urban area they have no idea it is you.
Plus sounds like somebody else might call the police.
I personally would confront historically. Let them know I'm not scared, I don't beat around the bush, and I am always willing to make adjustments to live with other people. I had a dorky college kid blasting industrial at all hours of the night and there was a giant speaker right next to where my bedroom was. He wouldn't open the door and talk man to man (I used to get my ass beat routinely in school so I'm always surprised by how intimidating I apparently am now) so I told the apartment complex managers.
I also had another dorky college kid blasting something else, but it was in my living room so I didn't care. He came and confronted me because somebody called the managers on him.....I told him as much: I don't care because it's in my living room, but if I hear it in my bed room it will f~+%ing end and I will knock on your door.
Are you the only person who can hear it? If not, call the police, and when he knocks on your door tell him you heard it, but you think he should keep the mutt in his bedroom so nobody else is inconvenienced, but you understand how "it's all about him" and all.
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OK it is 1am and I cant sleep because my new neighbours have a puppy or a small dog, pretty sure its a puppy but it is crying our side right now no stop. it a little heartbreaking. I have not called the police yet because I don't want to start a feud just yet. I would talk to them but the house they live in is a converted apartment house not sure which one is them. My sense motive and past experience with this sort of thing tells me that the direct good neighbour approach will end poorly.
So what if I found a good home with some one that wants a dog and does not care to much about where it came from?
Help me justify/ talk me out of this plan.
Also any one want a small and or young dog it white and brown does not like being out side by itself late at night. does not seem to eat much.
If its on your property...put out a bowl of water.
am in a small town, and they would know it me or one of the other apartments. It would cause some issues and not just for me. I will try to find out who is leaving the dog out and confront them. If that dont work I call the police, they like me anyway.
I really want the dog to be taken care of not just quite. that was why I was thinking dognapping.
That kinda thing can backfire.
If they would know it was you or one of the others who called the cops, wouldn't they know it was you or one of the others if the dog disappeared?
Other dumb crap could happen. If you're going to dognap, you're better off calling the cops.
What are they gonna do, sleep deprive you for a month? They're doing that anyway. F*$#em.
this is were the dogapping plan could work. right though my back yard and there's is a major walk/ bike way the rails to tails. so anybody could walk by and grab the dog and if I leave the dog collar attached to the chain and then drop the dog off at a new home somewhere else it could work.
but now there is Internet proof of the crime so I think I will just confront them and then get the police involved if necessary.
man spelling is taking a hit this late
It could work.
Or it could backfire.
I can't even suggest confronting really.
All I can suggest is calling the cops.
Dognapping is a crime. What is probably worse, you have no idea the reaction it could get. Dog owners LOVE their dogs, even if (or perhaps especially when) they ignore them. You steal that dog, you better believe there is a news campaign, posters on trees, talk show tear-fest coming out. There will be neighbours going street to street about it. Do your future life a favour and CALL THE COPS instead.
If the dog is microchipped leaving its collar off won't accomplish much.
Call the police.
Also, to pick up Sissyl's point...
Dogs also love their masters, even if they are asshats.
You're assuming the dog would come willingly without fuss or injury.
Call the police.
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As a dog owner, I have to say if you dognapped one of my pack, you would have essentially removed a member of my family. As such, expect a reaction similar to that of a parent who finds the person who kidnapped their kid if you were found out. Just something to consider before you seriously consider taking that course of action.
Now, if the dog is being abused, then yes, removal is a valid option, but it should occur via animal services, not you (though if you are truly worried for the animal, and you do not live in an area with No Kill shelters, then you would probably want to go pick up the dog yourself from the shelter after it is rescued). If it is just being loud, call the cops ... just like you would on someone's kids who are being way too loud in the middle of the night.
I am not going to dognapp the dog just tired. although I do suspected abuse on the dog he is still out there now and lookin at him (or her) it is definitely a puppy. I will call tonight once city noise ordinances kick in
The poor puppy!!!
I'd call the authorities, definitely. Then, if necessary, dognap. Leaving them outside like that is definitely abusive, especially if they've got no shelter.
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Still cannot understand why someone wanting a few chickens or a couple goats is so out of the question when people can have multiple much louder and physically threatening dogs. We cannot have you providing food, but your neighbors pack of baying hounds is OK.....
Still cannot understand why someone wanting a few chickens or a couple goats is so out of the question when people can have multiple much louder and physically threatening dogs. We cannot have you providing food, but your neighbors pack of baying hounds is OK.....
Where do you live that people object to chickens and goats? I'm in the S.F. Bay Area so we can claim a population density right up there with other core metro areas, but I've had friends with goats, chickens, etc.
The only places I've heard chickens banned are:
(1) Places with homeowner's associations, which I will never understand.
(2) Chickens or goats that violate noise ordinances. In spite of their reputations, I've found chickens to be perfectly reasonable and tasty neighbors... though one of my co-workers lives in Montana and I swear her chickens drown out our phone conversations half the time...
In terms of the OP, I think the Humane Society, SPCA, or other animal welfare agency is the first call if you have one active in your area, and the police are the second if the dog actually violates noise ordinances. (It's pretty hard. Something like 70 decibels in YOUR house after 11 pm or something. Depends on the city/municipality.)
Don't dognap. That's at least a misdemeanor, or possibly a felony depending on the dog's monetary value and what you'd have to do to nab the mutt.
If the dog is violating your local noise ordinance, call the cops.
If you think the dog is being abused, call your local animal control authorities.
Re: chickens:
I actually live in a city that forbids the keeping of farm animals within the city limits, according to the city charter. So no chickens, goats, bees, pigs, cows, horses, ducks, turkeys, llamas, etc. It's been that way since the 1920s.
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Still cannot understand why someone wanting a few chickens or a couple goats is so out of the question when people can have multiple much louder and physically threatening dogs. We cannot have you providing food, but your neighbors pack of baying hounds is OK.....Where do you live that people object to chickens and goats? I'm in the S.F. Bay Area so we can claim a population density right up there with other core metro areas, but I've had friends with goats, chickens, etc.
The only places I've heard chickens banned are:
(1) Places with homeowner's associations, which I will never understand.
(2) Chickens or goats that violate noise ordinances. In spite of their reputations, I've found chickens to be perfectly reasonable and tasty neighbors... though one of my co-workers lives in Montana and I swear her chickens drown out our phone conversations half the time...In terms of the OP, I think the Humane Society, SPCA, or other animal welfare agency is the first call if you have one active in your area, and the police are the second if the dog actually violates noise ordinances. (It's pretty hard. Something like 70 decibels in YOUR house after 11 pm or something. Depends on the city/municipality.)
Most cities have ordinances against livestock
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Ordnance? Wow... =)
Still cannot understand why someone wanting a few chickens or a couple goats is so out of the question when people can have multiple much louder and physically threatening dogs. We cannot have you providing food, but your neighbors pack of baying hounds is OK.....
Hear hear!
My building is the one in my complex that allows dogs, hence I'm the ONLY apartment that doesn't have one (they changed their policy after we moved in).24 hours a day barking from one direction or another. The apartment which shares a wall with my bedroom has a dog locked in said bedroom all the live-long day while they're at work, and often for whole weekends away, and it never stops yapping.
Even worse, NO ONE uses a leash, despite it being the law. People just let their dog out to do its business, and thus there are often multiple dogs running around unleashed in what amounts to my back yard, fighting or copulating in my parking lot.
And they NEVER pick up their dog's s%*%. Ever. Even though the apartment management furnishes them with crap bags for free.
It's also a (sub)plot in the hilarious Seven Psychopaths.
seven psychopaths is where I got the idea
LOL. I got curious so I looked it up. My city allows up to half a dozen hens (no roosters) with a permit: linky. Kind of explains why I don't see a noise issue with them.
I then looked up goats, since my friend was mayor and owned a goat. Turns out goats are currently illegal, but they're working right now on making them legal.
I'm sorry I find this so fascinating, but California is one of the few states where "Every animal is illegal unless it is explicitly made legal" (Part of the whole agriculture thing, and the reason we can't own ferrets, which make wonderful pets if you're as psychotic as I am), yet in all the cities I've lived in "lesser" livestock like chicken and goats are fine... (at least even when people owned "illegal" livestock no one paid attention unless it was a serious noise/smell/abuse issue.)
EDIT: Getting obsessed now. Goats are legal in Oakland as long as you don't sell the milk, and I can't find the result on Fremont, but our friend's neighbor openly walks her 3 goats down the street and has never had an issue. I'm just amazed at what you can learn on these boards when someone just casually mentions something... the mayor had an illegal pet. Who knew?
One person on my friends list recently found out that her city was making it illegal to have bee-hives, something she was pretty active in.
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There is a push to allow small time urban farming, chickens (no roosters) are becoming common and goats are starting to catch up. Detroit MI just had an issue with someone grazing goats in the city to clear vacant lots. Goats are not allowed the city told them, of course those some rules say no weed infested properties with crumbling buildings
Heh. Of course the police will fight the people grazing goats in abandoned plots. Stands to reason.
Land of the free...
...land of the free-range...
There is a push to allow small time urban farming, chickens (no roosters) are becoming common and goats are starting to catch up. Detroit MI just had an issue with someone grazing goats in the city to clear vacant lots. Goats are not allowed the city told them, of course those some rules say no weed infested properties with crumbling buildings
What's funny is that that's how we clear Albany hill of weeds and brush -- we bring in goats once a month and they do a bang-up job of it.
Who knew that the city was accidentally bringing in illegal animals to do its dirty work?
The conspiracy continues...