D&D 3.5 Spell Sheet Equivolant

[Dornith]

I've been DMing a 3.5 group for a little while, and we've started using these spell sheets with all the spells for any given class listed on them.

http://www.irossco.com/dnd/

I've found it's really useful for divine casters, because they don't have to write down or memorize all their spells, and for arcane casters because when they level up, they've got a short summery of any new spell right in front of them.

I've recently joined a group that's using pathfinder and I've created a druid. I want to use something similar to that, but for pathfinder instead of 3.5. I've look around for quite a while and haven't found much. I've seen blank spell sheets, but that doesn't really address my reasons for looking for this.

So does anyone know where I could find something like this for pathfinder:
http://www.irossco.com/dnd/dnd_3.5_druid_spells.pdf

[Fabius Maximus]

That is an excellent question.

[Mark Garringer]

Dornith see if this is something that will help you:

Perram's Spellbook

Or the new version under construction:
Perram's Spellbook (Alpha)

[Dornith]

Mark Garringer wrote:

Dornith see if this is something that will help you:

Perram's Spellbook

Or the new version under construction:
Perram's Spellbook (Alpha)

I'd found that before, but it designates a ninth of each page to one spell, which to me, just seems ridiculous. I'm looking for something that's just a one line description of each spell, like the one I referenced in my original post.

[HangarFlying]

Linkified for convenience.

Linkified 2 for convenience.

[HangarFlying]

Nothing I'm aware of, but it sounds like it would be a great project.

[Garrett Guillotte]

Seems doable. The spell lists already have the one-line descriptions. Hardest part would be scraping up all the metadata. Unless someone already happens to have this in a structured format they can share...

[Sethvir]

FWIW, I've done something similar, except it includes far more than just the Paizo Spell Lists. It's all stored in an Access db and is just a report output. I put up the Druid Spell List and even condensing it down as far as I can, there are 52 pages of Druid Spells.

Pathfinder Class Spell List.

[Cevah]

Perhaps the SRD's Spell DB or the Pathfinder Community's Spell DB can be used. The latter can download to a spreadsheet you can reformat and filter to whatever you want. They both have the metadata you want.

/cevah

[Joshua Goudreau]

I haven't yet played a Pathfinder spellcaster though I am preparing a Sorcerer for an upcoming game and something like this would be very handy as I used quick references in 3E.

This isn't a bad place to start making the list:

Cevah wrote:

Perhaps the SRD's Spell DB or the Pathfinder Community's Spell DB can be used. The latter can download to a spreadsheet you can reformat and filter to whatever you want. They both have the metadata you want.

/cevah

If you want to filter out 3PP material and sort spells by book, you can use PFSRD Spell Lists.

If you and your table is smart phone friendly, my girlfriend swears by a spellbook app that apparently does the same thing. I prefer a dead tree list, personally.

[Sethvir]

Cevah wrote:

Perhaps the SRD's Spell DB or the Pathfinder Community's Spell DB can be used. The latter can download to a spreadsheet you can reformat and filter to whatever you want. They both have the metadata you want.

/cevah

My access db uses that as the primary source for Paizo spells, then the rest is manually added from other sources as I have time.

[HangarFlying]

Sethvir wrote:

FWIW, I've done something similar, except it includes far more than just the Paizo Spell Lists. It's all stored in an Access db and is just a report output. I put up the Druid Spell List and even condensing it down as far as I can, there are 52 pages of Druid Spells.

Pathfinder Class Spell List.

I guess Druids will be walking around with "spell books" now.

I'll be here all week, folks.

[Cornielius]

I did a cut and paste from the PRD for druid spells and use it for a 'spellbook' for my druid.

It works.

[Cevah]

Sethvir wrote:

FWIW, I've done something similar, except it includes far more than just the Paizo Spell Lists. It's all stored in an Access db and is just a report output. I put up the Druid Spell List and even condensing it down as far as I can, there are 52 pages of Druid Spells.

Pathfinder Class Spell List.

Just looked at your file. I see some obvious ways to shorten it: Abbreviations.

1) School/Subschool/Descriptor
You don't need the whole word. Use "Tran" for "Transmutation" and so on.
2) Casting Time
Nearly every spell is "X Units" where "X" is usually "1", and "Units" is "Standard Action", "Full Round Action", "minutes", and so on. Abbreviate these as "STD", "Full", "Min", and so on. Any that don't fit will be "Misc" meaning you need to look it up elsewhere. [The description is a good place to add it.]
3) Components
Most of the time, this is needed to tell if it has an expensive component, and if it has a somatic component. For a quick reference, just use #gp rather than a text description. You can omit commas for V, S, F, etc., and if you really need something, put it in the description.
4) Source
You should be able to abbreviate everything in this column to just a few characters. Use the AP# for AP modules rather than the name. Have a separate cheat sheet for these abbreviations.
5) Description
With all this space you have freed up, give it to the description column. Add the bits you had to take out of the other columns here. Omit fluff text. Concentrate on long descriptions. Have a separate word document for the few with really long descriptions you really need (like Dispel Magic). Use smaller fonts for the extra long descriptions. This means that the average number of lines for each spell is lowered, thus saving paper.

The idea of this sheet is not to have every spell laid out with all the text, but rather a quick reference so you can use it at the table. It is OK to look up a spell for details during another's turn. Picking a spell each morning just needs sufficient to know what it does, not the exact details.

/cevah

[Sethvir]

@Cevah - Mostly I do it for my own amusement and use it for my gaming group for generating output for scrolls, where I print the spell on a single page and roll it and hand it out for scrolls or spellbooks found.

The basis is chopswil's d20pfsrd spell list, so the bulk of the data is formatted based on whatever he has. The rest of the data entry just follows suit. Short descriptions are hit and miss frankly. Most of the core PFSRD spells have them, but the bulk of the rest are missing. I have about 3600 spells loaded into the db at the moment.

If anyone is interested I can do setup the abbreviations as proposed. I have a shorter names for a lot of the source material. Not quite as short as AP49 for example.

[Cornielius]

Here's a section of what I use for your viewing pleasure:

example:

0 levels

• Create Water: Creates 2 gallons/level of pure water.
• Detect Magic: Detects spells and magic items within 60 ft.
• Detect Poison: Detects poison in one creature or object.
• Flare: Dazzles one creature (–1 penalty on attack rolls).
• Guidance: +1 on one attack roll, saving throw, or skill check.
• Know Direction: You discern north.
• Light: Object shines like a torch.
• Mending: Makes minor repairs on an object.
• Purify Food and Drink: Purifies 1 cu. ft. /level of food or water.
• Read Magic: Read scrolls and spellbooks.
• Resistance: Subject gains +1 bonus on saving throws.
• Spark (APG): Ignites flammable objects.
• Stabilize: Cause a dying creature to stabilize.
• Virtue: Subject gains 1 temporary hp.

1st level

• Air Bubble (UC): Creates a small pocket of air around your head or an object.
• Alter Winds (APG): Increase/decrease strength of natural winds. 1 hr./ level
• Ant Haul (APG): Triples carrying capacity of a creature. 2 hrs./level
• Aspect of the Falcon (APG): Gives bonuses on Perception checks and ranged attacks.1 min/level, polymorph
• Bristle (APG): Trade natural armor bonus for a bonus on attacks with natural weapons. 1 min/level
• Call Animal: Makes an animal come to you.
• Calm Animals: Calms 2d4 + level HD of animals.
• Charm Animal: Makes one animal your friend.
• Cloak of Shade (APG): Reduces effects of sun exposure and heat. 1 hr/level
• Cure Light Wounds: Cures 1d8 damage + 1/level (max +5).
• Damp Powder (UC): Ruins ammunition loaded in the targeted firearm.
• Deadeye's Lore (UC): Gain a +4 bonus on Survival and move full speed while tracking.
• Decompose Corpse (UM): Turn a corpse into a clean skeleton.
• Detect Aberration (APG): Reveals presence of aberrations. Concentration, up to 10 minutes/level
• Detect Animals or Plants: Detects kinds of animals or plants.
• Detect Snares and Pits: Reveals natural or primitive traps.
• Diagnose Disease (UM): Detect and identify diseases.
• Endure Elements: Exist comfortably in hot or cold regions.
• Entangle: Plants entangle everyone in 40-ft. radius.

[Dornith]

Thanks everyone for your responses and sorry I haven't been able to reply sooner (technical difficulties).

I took the spell reference Mark Garringer linked to and loaded it into an SQL Database. I'm working on making a site that will generate spell sheets like the ones I found for D&D.