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I was surprised I couldn't find an answer to this, but how much Prestige does it cost to cast Atonement on a Druid that has shifted from Neutral to Neutral-Evil? And is there still a gold cost as well?
The chart in the Field Guide says "Atonement - 2pp (8pp to restore cleric/druid powers)".
But shifting a Druid from Neutral to Neutral Evil doesn't affect their "druid powers", so there should be no need to "restore" them. In this case the Atonement is only required to remain a Pathfinder.
School abjuration; Level cleric 5, druid 5
Casting Time 1 hour
Components V, S, M (burning incense), F (a set of prayer beads or other prayer device worth at least 500 gp), DF
Range touch
Target living creature touched
Duration instantaneous
Saving Throw none; Spell Resistance yesThis spell removes the burden of misdeeds from the subject. The creature seeking atonement must be truly repentant and desirous of setting right its misdeeds. If the atoning creature committed the evil act unwittingly or under some form of compulsion, atonement operates normally at no cost to you. However, in the case of a creature atoning for deliberate misdeeds, you must intercede with your deity (requiring you to expend 2,500 gp in rare incense and offerings). Atonement may be cast for one of several purposes, depending on the version selected.
Reverse Magical Alignment Change: If a creature has had its alignment magically changed, atonement returns its alignment to its original status at no additional cost.
Restore Class: A paladin, or other class, who has lost her class features due to violating the alignment restrictions of her class may have her class features restored by this spell.
Restore Cleric or Druid Spell Powers: A cleric or druid who has lost the ability to cast spells by incurring the anger of her deity may regain that ability by seeking atonement from another cleric of the same deity or another druid. If the transgression was intentional, the casting cleric must expend 2,500 gp in rare incense and offerings for her god's intercession.
Redemption or Temptation: You may cast this spell upon a creature of an opposing alignment in order to offer it a chance to change its alignment to match yours. The prospective subject must be present for the entire casting process. Upon completion of the spell, the subject freely chooses whether it retains its original alignment or acquiesces to your offer and changes to your alignment. No duress, compulsion, or magical influence can force the subject to take advantage of the opportunity offered if it is unwilling to abandon its old alignment. This use of the spell does not work on outsiders or any creature incapable of changing its alignment naturally.
Though the spell description refers to evil acts, atonement can be used on any creature that has performed acts against its alignment, regardless of the actual alignment in question.
Note: Normally, changing alignment is up to the player. This use of atonement offers a method for a character to change his or her alignment drastically, suddenly, and definitively.
Any opinions or past experiences?
Venture-Lieutenant, Washington—Pullman
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*I* didn't think it was an evil deed, but apparently trying to overthrow the mammalian empires of our time in order to bring about a peaceful "Age of Reptiles" is considered by *some* races to be an evil act.
So exactly what did you do that shifted your alignment because that doesn't seem to fit the bill for an alignment infraction.
Venture-Agent, Colorado—Denver
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*I* didn't think it was an evil deed, but apparently trying to overthrow the mammalian empires of our time in order to bring about a peaceful "Age of Reptiles" is considered by *some* races to be an evil act.
Hmm. Could you describe in greater detail what, exactly, you did? It may or may not have an impact on an alignment shift.
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Since atonement is on the druid spell list, you should just be able to buy the prayer beads for 500gp and then cast it at the end of the scenario. Then you have the beads for the next time you need to say sorry for trying to eliminate the mammal plague!
If your DM isn't a fan of that for whatever reason, then you have the option of spending 2PP or 950gp for someone else to cast it for you.
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For redemption, you cannot cast atonement on yourself. If you read the spell description it is clear that the caster must be of the desired final alignment. The same is true for restoring cleric or druid powers, but not for paladin powers (as written) nor if your alignment was magically changed.
Moreover, if the transgressions were deliberate acts, the cost of casting the spell should include the 2,500 gp worth of incense and offerings, even for redemption (see paragraph 1 of the description).
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2 PP.
Shifting N -> NE does not remove druid powers.
However, if you shifted CN -> CE, then it would be 8 PP.
Depends...
Now a druid doesn't HAVE to choose a deity in PFS, but if they did, and it was a NG deity, shifting to NE would remove spell casting as well.
Overall, I think you're right though, it really depends on what the shift is/does in relation to the class or selected religion.
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Venture-Captain, California—Sacramento
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Yup, the relevant sentence is:
If the atoning creature committed the evil act unwittingly or under some form of compulsion, atonement operates normally at no cost to you. However, in the case of a creature atoning for deliberate misdeeds, you must intercede with your deity (requiring you to expend 2,500 gp in rare incense and offerings).
Now, for this to count, the GM is required to have warned you in advance that the deed was evil. (The guide to organized play suggests that this warning should come in the form of a vision from your god.) So if you didn't get a warning, you don't need to pay the extra 2500.
