Some of my players came up with this and I wasn't sure if it worked or not.
There was a dark tunnel. They couldn't see to the end of it, but they suspected a trap / ambush. So they cast light on a rope, tied a weight to the end of it, and through the weight to the other end of the tunnel.
Then later they came up with the modification of casting invisibility after light so no one could see where the light was coming from.
Does this really work this way?
Casting invisibily on the rope would make the rope invisible. It would not make the light invisible. Any potential foes would still see a roughly rope-shaped aura of light and probably suspect something was up.
They can make the rope or the weight invisible (or both with two castings), but the light will still be visible (per the rules on invisibility).
Finding the source of light isn't too hard in most cases I'd imagine, though people might be hesitant to stick their hands into the core of the mysterious glow to see if anything is there.
I'd say it works against anyone who isn't particularly daring or knowledgeable about arcana.
The light source created by Light doesnt emanate from the object, it emanates from the point touched, making the object glow. But a rope wouldnt cover any area larger than 20-foot radius. Thus either tip of the rope would glow, or they could cast it on the weight.
The light source created by Light doesnt emanate from the object, it emanates from the point touched, making the object glow. But a rope wouldnt cover any area larger than 20-foot radius. Thus either tip of the rope would glow, or they could cast it on the weight.
Casting Time 1 standard action
Components V, M/DF (a firefly)
Range touch
Target object touched
Duration 10 min./level
Saving Throw none; Spell Resistance no
This spell causes a touched object to glow like a torch, shedding normal light in a 20-foot radius, and increasing the light level for an additional 20 feet by one step, up to normal light (darkness becomes dim light, and dim light becomes normal light). In an area of normal or bright light, this spell has no effect. The effect is immobile, but it can be cast on a movable object.
You can only have one light spell active at any one time. If you cast this spell while another casting is still in effect, the previous casting is dispelled. If you make this spell permanent (through permanency or a similar effect), it does not count against this limit. Light can be used to counter or dispel any darkness spell of equal or lower spell level.
This spell causes a touched object to glow like a torch, shedding normal light in a 20-foot radius from the point touched, and increasing the light level for an additional 20 feet by one step, up to normal light (darkness becomes dim light, and dim light becomes normal light). In an area of normal or bright light, this spell has no effect. The effect is immobile, but it can be cast on a movable object.
PS: I honestly dont care which source is right or wrong.
But the clause of the point touched prevents abuse from the spell when someone touches a castle or wall and make it glow.
What I'd be careful about with a "point touched" literal reading is the object blocking its own light on the other side. A GM can easily resolve it (there is light in a 20 ft radius that isn't blocked by the same "object" that is emitting light), but it still requires judgment on what's the same or not. For example, I'd want a ball to just glow all over. A castle wall is more ambiguous as far as whether it should be emitting light on both sides.
I guess the more I think about it I would go with:
The whole rope glows and when it is all coiled up it gives the light of a torch. But any one inch long segment of rope is not all that bright.
My LED flashlight is quite bright. But if I spread the 8 LED's around the room I would be hard pressed to read a book.
So they would have a lind of very dim light (from no visible source the second time) equivalent to maybe a very tiny candle at any point along the 50 foot length. So the guys with low light would have seen the 3 guards at the end of the hall and maybe the guys with normal vision if the had a high enough perception roll.
So still useful, but won't light up a ballroom.
I just had this nifty thought: CONTINUAL FLAME ROPE!
Not sure what I'd use it for, but it sounds (and in my mind) looks cool.
Permanently invisible continual flame whip. For the awesome.
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Permanently invisible continual flame whip. For the awesome.I just had this nifty thought: CONTINUAL FLAME ROPE!
Not sure what I'd use it for, but it sounds (and in my mind) looks cool.
I was thinking a invisible flaming bladed scarf. Walk around town wearing flickering light as a decoration. Then if someone gives you attitude, slash them with your flickering light.
