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Settlement: Freevale
Alignment: C/N

Charter Companies:
Blunt Logic (Drunkards, rabble rousers)
Charter Company membership is OPEN!

Blunt Logic is looking to establish the open membership settlement of Freevale. We are not interested in mandating or micro managing anyone's playtime. This new settlement will be an ideal home for individuals and small groups who aren't looking to live in a metropolis under the boot of authority.

Freevale will be allowed to grow as organically as possible. Clearly, members will need to have a desire to defend their settlement. We will start with the basic services that are required to maintain that settlement. Beyond that, everything is open to change. Consider it crowdforging a settlement. Freevale will grow in the direction it's members desire, no changes barred. Current members have a desire to shape the settlement into a grey market outpost. Freevale will launch focusing on achieving that goal. How it shapes up is for the members to decide.

You can help build Freevale by Joining Us here! There is no obligation to maintain membership with Blunt Logic. Joining us on the Goblinworks site helps us place in the Land Rush event and establish a settlement together. We will, however, provide chat / forum / voice comm space to citizens of Freevale should they want it.

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I've added your Guild to the Guild Recruitment & Helpful Links list. If you have a brief description you'd like to appear there to let people know about your guild while they're browsing that list, just PM me or post a clear request here.

The Seventh Veil welcomes you to the community.

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Thanks again for the add and welcome! If anyone has any questions or comments, let me know.

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Nice to see you on the boards, Gpunk. :)

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I am sure a number of Dagedai's inhabitants are going to be keen on opening trade with this new settlement. Good luck!

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It's refreshing to see an active, warm community. Thank you for the pm's and general support.

Aside from the grey market and C/N alignment, Freevale is still a bit amorphous. This is intentional. Freevale isn't vying for the biggest companies or to be the largest settlement. We want early adopters to be able to define the settlement in which they live.

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Gpunk wrote:
It's refreshing to see an active, warm community.

We are very proud of it :)

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Nihimon wrote:
We are very proud of it :)

Oh, yes, we are. These are the least-poisonous boards many of us have ever seen, and "we're not only proud of that, we're smug about it".

Yes, there is indeed a Monty Python quote for any purpose.

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If you lived in Freevale you would be home by now. Get your application in today and help us host the 'First Annual Trading Bazaar and Good vs Evil Pit Fights'. Not only is betting allowed, it's encouraged!

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Good morning! Freevale is still looking for members who want to live in a free settlement. You don't hate freedom do you? Chartered Companies are also welcome.

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Freevale is open to all play styles. We would like to make a place the small groups, solo, and duo teams can call home while having a say in that home.

Barbarians, traders, gatherers, warriors...even librarians - there are lots of small teams involved in the Land Rush. Many of them will not make the final cut unless we work together.

Like the idea of Freevale but hate the name? Join today and change it.

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Gpunk wrote:
Barbarians, traders, gatherers, warriors...even librarians - there are lots of small teams involved in the Land Rush. Many of them will not make the final cut unless we work together.

You'd think that would be enough, but with very limited communication options amongst the various guilds it is difficult to reach out to other groups about consolidation.

However, I've been thinking that Freevale and the unnamed Outsiders settlement (BTW, I actually considered calling it 'Freevale' also before deciding to leave the name for later) are essentially the same concept except for their alignment focus... Chaotic Neutral vs Neutral Good.

Would it be possible for these guilds to merge? Chaotic Good and True Neutral characters could be members of either, but that's only half of each group. The other alignments (NG&LG or CN&CE) would be locked out of any single settlement.

However, what if we all agreed that, while other alignments could not be members of the settlement under the game rules, they would still be given access to any storage areas, purchasable training, and any other 'unlocked' amenities of the settlement AND that the settlement would work towards establishing one or more additional settlements to support the other alignments?

Also note that the Dagedai alliance is a similar LN settlement, though they do have some rules, and the Antihero guild has said they accept all members without specifying an alignment. We might be able to work with these other groups. Dagedai is already in good shape to secure a settlement of their own.

Of the remaining open guilds, Freevale has the most current members and the lowest founding number (#11, Outsiders is #14)... which gets precedence in cases where the number of votes are tied. I have a lot of communications out to different groups, including the Antihero guild, suggesting that they may want to join together with the Outsiders settlement which I'd like to let play out for a few more days (rather than them being unable to find 'Outsiders'), but if those don't suddenly produce a viable NG guild I'd like to propose merging Outsiders into Freevale, along the lines described above, prior to the first draft on June 1.

Freevale would then cover the chaotic alignments, Dagedai should get a settlement covering the lawful alignments, and that would basically leave just Neutral Good and Neutral Evil without an 'open settlement'... which we could work towards correcting in game.

Thoughts?

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I am very open to making something work. Establishing like minded settlements on the opposite side of the alignment spectrum is something I would like to achieve regardless. That and making sure members of the chartered companies within Freevale (and companies designated by this agreement) all have access to services they need is zero problem for me.

I will shoot you a pm so we can chat further. Even if we can't work something out for the Land Rush, I would still love to help achieve other settlements for small teams like ours.

Guild / Company wise, we are open to anyone that wants in atm. If I have any potential members that are interested but not in being on the chaotic side of life, I would recommend them to allies and settlement mates before anyone else.

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You don't deserve a settlement. You don't have 9 other friends with $100 spare dollars. You aren't an awe inspiring pro team.

There is a bit of arrogance occasionally aimed at small settlements. Part of it is very real and legit reasoning - the numbers just won't work for the small teams. That's fair. It's the 'you aren't deserving' snarkiness that crops up in some comments that is wrong.

There is most certainly a place for at least a few small settlements. Freevale hopes the other small teams involved consider joining our settlement for the Land Rush. Freevale can give you the freedom to do wtf ever you want and you don't have to sell your soul to the big guys to make it happen.

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I hear a lot of rage. Dang this is turning into a text awl. I am so sorry.

It is not about deserving. There are on 30 remaining sites, not by deserving, but by vote. THey will go to the most votes. Normally they do not go to anyone, but this is pump priming for EE. You want your own, there are over a hundred (two hundred, I did not count -- some are better to my mind than the current 30) sites that can open in latter EE. Mechanics are not there enow in Minimum Viable Product.

This current phase is about a special release of 33 settlements. 3 are already assigned. Members of those 3 communities are not supposed to pursue sites out of the remaining 30 sites. THose 30 will be assigned after 10 weeks of Land Rush. THere has been extensive discussion about this over the forums, but I can understand why you may not have acted in that "mental activity with no effect".

Many of those who were active in these forums have banded together in the top 8 to 10 most populous "guild". THey will get a settlement. Some of these may have more than one company and it is uncertain who controls what.

You will have 10 weeks to pull together friends, or find new friend to make a "guild" to own a settlement.

How much do you know about what has been discussed and done in last 17 months. What happens on June first is not final. It does give some advantages to those horse on the inside, but it is only the first furlong. This is not about solo play. What is your group?

ON the other hand, there are 3 to 4 times as many site eligible for settlements by normal game mechanics for clearing. If you can not pull a group together (say of 10 to be in top 33) you can still build your own cit in later parts of EE.

However, from first description this is about team play, not a solo PvE game.

Feel free to PM me. I you do not see how, click on my handle and then look for "private message".

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Or... I mentioned it before but your crew could just join Prophecy since we look to be going the same route. Blunt Logic will retain their identity and put as much into developing the settlement as you'd like.

You know, just sayin'. ;)

P.S. We've got a badass logo.

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Ravenlute SBC _Prophecy_ wrote:

Or... I mentioned it before but your crew could just join Prophecy since we look to be going the same route. Blunt Logic will retain their identity and put as much into developing the settlement as you'd like.

You know, just sayin'. ;)

P.S. We've got a badass logo.

So... we're talking about three companies;

Blunt Logic: 3 land rush members, guild #11
Outsiders: 2 land rush members, guild #13
Stone Bear Clan: 2 land rush members, guild #15

We all actually have very low guild numbers (the number at the end of the URL for each guild page), which are being used to break vote ties, but Blunt Logic's is the lowest... and they have the most members in the land rush. Together we'd have seven votes... and jump from 30th, 37th, and 38th places... to 17th.

Seven votes was the cutoff for the top 30 in the first land rush, and we'd be at the top of the seven vote list. Guilds #1-3 don't exist, they were probably created and deleted for dev production testing, and guilds #4-10 all have nine or more members.

I've got more members planning to join Outsiders later on, but not in EE and thus not for the land rush. Recruiting with just a handful of members has proven difficult. Thus, I'm leaning heavily towards backing 'Freevale' (name potentially open to revision) with Blunt Logic. If you did too we'd be unstoppable! :]

...and maybe we could keep the badass logo. Or it could be SBC specific.

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CBDunkerson wrote:
Ravenlute SBC _Prophecy_ wrote:

Or... I mentioned it before but your crew could just join Prophecy since we look to be going the same route. Blunt Logic will retain their identity and put as much into developing the settlement as you'd like.

You know, just sayin'. ;)

P.S. We've got a badass logo.

So... we're talking about three companies;

Blunt Logic: 3 land rush members, guild #11
Outsiders: 2 land rush members, guild #13
Stone Bear Clan: 2 land rush members, guild #15

Settlement: Aragon (CN)

The UnNamed Company: 19 land rush members and more pending upgrade

If your three companies find yourselves outside of the 30, you are all welcome to live in our settlement.

If you choose to help push Aragon even further into the earlier selection ranking, your leadership will have a seat on the council.

You will retain your identity, your freedom of action and you will gain much, much more beyond that..... But not the Moon, that belongs to The Goodfellow, I'm told.

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First off, free bump for Freevale.

@CBDunkerson
Actually, we've got 3 votes now but I get the point and I've been thinking on it. You've got a solid proposition.

One issue I have is that I'm not quite ready to ditch the content I've made for Prophecy. I'm also looking for Companies that want to continue being their own thing and part of the Settlement in-game. I don't want it to be the SBC's settlement, I want it to be the Settlement that the SBC is part of. It also needs to be CN, since that was the whole point.

10 weeks is a long time for this event and I've potentially got some more members on the way as well.

You're very correct that recruiting with small numbers is difficult. Damn near akin to torture really. This is just the first week and everything is going to be shifting like crazy so I think I'll hold out for now but I'm not dismissing the idea.

@Bluddwolf
We've talked a little about that internally and it's not off the table but a bit early for us to want to pursue right now.

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Ravenlute SBC _Prophecy_ wrote:

@Bluddwolf

We've talked a little about that internally and it's not off the table but a bit early for us to want to pursue right now.

I can appreciate that position, we actually had a similar offer and decided to wait and see how our own land rush bid would go.

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I think Freevale deserves the visibility. They're working to play the "what's another way we can get bigger?" game, and they're one of the first.

Best of luck to you.

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@Lam Rage? Nein. I clearly stated the numbers won't work for the small teams. I have also clearly stated I am interested in creating a home for solo players, duo, and small groups. By virtue of being here, even if I am a late comer newbie, I am acknowledging this is a team game and an interest in working with the community.

@Bluddwolf Aragon is one of the settlements I have been eyeing. We will be looking for someone to support if this folds. I would like to see this play out a bit because I do think there is a shot.

@Ravenlute and CBDunkerson I think we all have some late comer friends. What can you do? lawl. I do think there is a chance some or all of us will be bumped from the leaders as this process moves forward. We might have different visions for our companies but the settlements seem to share a similar enough vision. CB has floated the idea of working together @ the start (if our Land Rush goes south), then working to achieve new settlements that fit the seeker's alignment curve better. It is a good idea with a lot of merit and worth considering. I don't want anyone to lose the assets or time they have spent crafting the vision for their settlement but I don't want any of us to lose a real shot at a settlement either. If/when there is interest in discussing this further, let me know. We can chat publicly, pm, or I can provide some voice comm space for us.

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As a member of Blunt Logic as well, I'm throwing my hat in for the 'get a bunch of companies together and make a shared settlement' thing. Given the way that this is likely to play out, merging small Companies into a single big settlement seems to be the way to go to secure a piece of land for the small guys.

Additionally, I do like the idea of each company/member bringing something different to Freevale and shaping how the settlement as a whole forms. It could lead to something truly unique being born.

So come on down to Freevale and help make something... interesting.

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Hi Blunties and Outsiders, I'm with the Stone Bear Clan and I agree that combining votes is something we really should do. I see no big hurry though, plenty of time to think this through before anything is set in stone. Better to discuss things properly and arrive at a solution everyone is happy with than rushing into a situation that leaves someone feeling resentful or unhappy.

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Wurner wrote:
Hi Blunties and Outsiders, I'm with the Stone Bear Clan and I agree that combining votes is something we really should do. I see no big hurry though, plenty of time to think this through before anything is set in stone. Better to discuss things properly and arrive at a solution everyone is happy with than rushing into a situation that leaves someone feeling resentful or unhappy.

Yes, though the cumulative effect of 'holding' a settlement in each draft of the land rush provides a benefit to sorting things out enough to make the top 33 before June 1. It is possible that a smaller settlement which got its act together earlier may eventually beat out a larger settlement which came together at the last minute.

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Gpunk, I was wondering about one statement on the Blunt Logic Company thread:

Quote:
Goals: Make new friends and kill them.

Do I have to take that literally, as in that Freevale is a FFA type of settlement, where anyone can attack anyone? Not sure if settlement-rules will allow this, but then again, why not.

I am interested in joining Outsiders(a possible merge candidate) and like the idea of a "Freetown" where the more loose elements can find a home, but do not like the idea of getting whacked by just any member in my own town. So just checking before I get in too deep with one of my Crafter Alts. :)

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I do not envision Freevale as a FFA type settlement. Blunt Logic as a team loves PvP but we don't poop where we sleep. There is going to come a time when we will all need to defend our homes and our neighbors homes. It will be a lot easier to rally my friends and neighbors if I do not spend my time robbing and killing them.

Make new friends and kill them is basically: PvP hard but don't hate the person behind the keyboard. I would rather be able to chat with someone that beat me soundly and consider friendly than hate on them. That kind of PvP is healthy and keeps people coming back.

On a general note, I agree. No need to rush. I will be around later this eve - 8pm EST-ish. If you want mumble info, etc. just shoot me or Gabriel a PM and we will get it to you.

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Thanks, Gpunk, that sounds fair enough. I am not a seasoned PvP-er and my interests lay mostly with Trading and Crafting, so any character of mine that would apply to a Chaotic, PvP based "Freetown" would have to be welcome as such(see my ultra long post about my intentions in the Pax Aeternum thread).

Though off course when the enemy is at the door, I will try to do what I can with the Chisel or Tongs that I am holding at that moment. That speaks for itself. I certainly want to learn to PvP better too, but I do not ever expect it to be my main focus, since I am simply not very competitive in that regard. Trade and Craft however, I can be persistant in that.

This is not an official application for Blunt Logic, but when you guys Merge then I would certainly be interested in putting one of my EE votes/Alts to such a "Chaotic" project(with Outsiders and/or Stone Bear Clan, maybe even Aragon). I want to cover several bases/alignments and would like to experience exposure also to the rougher elements of the game. Also, you guys need stuff, which is an important incentive. :)

So this is just testing the waters, in case of a Merge.

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Glad to see some Companies or "Guilds" thinking about merging for the voting power. Pretty smart as long as it is not an artificial merger. Be sure that the groups all have something in common such as Ideals, focus (PVP, crafting, etc...) or even larger more esoteric outlooks that you share.

Now, how do y'all decide who gives up their settlement bid to join who? ;P

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@Tyncale I would be happy to include anyone that has interest in our PvP excursions. No pressure regardless. While that is my passion, I am really excited about settlement / community management aspect of PFO and the crafting. I haven't been much of a crafter (usually just gather) in past games, so I think I have a lot to learn from the crafting minded folks in the settlement. I think it is the way resource income ties into the settlement itself that has piqued my interest. Even without a company, you are welcome in as a free agent.

@Bringslite We all have to chat a fair bit more than we have so far but I feel like the various parties showing interest can make it work. We seem to have similar visions just executed a little differently. Placement on the leader list wise, I think Freevale has the advantage of being settlement #11 to sign up. Since we would be small even with a merger, we will certainly discuss whether or not to use that advantage.

I will be checking in and out most of the evening while drafting in Hex and daydreaming about the DFM release for Star Citizen. If anyone wants to chat, holler. It doesn't have to concern settlement politics either.

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Gpunk wrote:
Placement on the leader list wise, I think Freevale has the advantage of being settlement #11 to sign up.

Just a note on mechanics. Technically, Lee has said that ties will be broken based on the order that guilds were submitted rather than the order they were accepted. Thus, the settlement number may not be an exact guide. However, I know that Freevale (#11) was on the board before Outsiders (#13) was even submitted. The first twenty or so went up very quickly after the land rush was announced and thus the acceptance order numbers are probably the same as the submission order. For guilds later in the sequence the acceptance numbers are probably still a fairly good guide, but may not be definitive.

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CBDunkerson wrote:


Just a note on mechanics. Technically, Lee has said that ties will be broken based on the order that guilds were submitted rather than the order they were accepted. Thus, the settlement number may not be an exact guide. However, I know that Freevale (#11) was on the board before Outsiders (#13) was even submitted. The first twenty or so went up very quickly after the land rush was announced and thus the acceptance order numbers are probably the same as the submission order. For guilds later in the sequence the acceptance numbers are probably still a fairly good guide, but may not be definitive.

Gotcha, that makes sense. Thank you for the clarification.

Freevale is still seeking citizens. Solo, duo, small teams and companies are encouraged to join. As you can see, we are discussing things with a few companies and settlements atm but others still have a place here too. If you are interested in joining a C/N settlement or have any questions, holler!

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Outsiders is now officially supporting Freevale in the land rush. Our company goal of encouraging 'open settlements' is well met by the Freevale charter and our combined membership have a better chance of securing a winning place in the land rush.

I'd encourage other small 'guilds' and companies to pursue similar merges with like minded groups. It may be difficult to give up complete control of your own settlement vision, but building sufficient numbers to maintain a settlement will always require compromises.

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I want to publicly acknowledge and thank CBDunkerson and The Outsiders for making this move. We literally would not be able to make this happen without their help and the help of other groups like them. Thank you and I look forward to gaming with you all.

Freevale is still looking for more settlers. I would like you to consider our settlement if you do not have a home yet.

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I would also like to thank and welcome CBDunkerson and The Outsiders. With their addition, Freevale is now sitting at 5 members. All it would take is 3 more members to secure a spot at #15, which would put us in an amazing position come the draft on the first.

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Please don't forget you have a total of 10 weeks for Land Rush, so you have time after 1 June to continue your efforts. Oh, and congratulations to all of you; you're pioneering Land Rush strategy.

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Congratulations to both your groups. The game will be richer with such diversity.

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@CBDunkerson ,@Gpunk and @Gabriel Mobius check your mail.


I'm afraid I won't be in at EE, but this looks like the settlement Grickin will likely be joining at Open Enrollment if it makes it.

I know that's not worth much right now, of course. :P

Good luck!

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Kobold Cleaver wrote:

I'm afraid I won't be in at EE, but this looks like the settlement Grickin will likely be joining at Open Enrollment if it makes it.

I know that's not worth much right now, of course. :P

No, actually that's great to hear. We have a few other people who have similarly expressed interest, but won't be in the game until later. If Goblinworks gets the numbers it is hoping for then the crowd at OE is going to dwarf (small d, not bearded axe wielders) the start of EE population. Gaining new recruits around that time is going to be important for everyone.

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Settlement: Freevale
Alignment: C/N

Charter Companies:
Outsiders
Blunt Logic

Charter Company membership is OPEN!

Blunt Logic is looking to establish the open membership settlement of Freevale. We are not interested in mandating or micro managing anyone's playtime. This new settlement will be an ideal home for individuals and small groups who aren't looking to live in a metropolis under the boot of authority.

Freevale will be allowed to grow as organically as possible. Clearly, members will need to have a desire to defend their settlement. We will start with the basic services that are required to maintain that settlement. Beyond that, everything is open to change. Consider it crowdforging a settlement. Freevale will grow in the direction it's members desire, no changes barred. Current members have a desire to shape the settlement into a grey market outpost. Freevale will launch focusing on achieving that goal. How it shapes up is for the members to decide.

You can help build Freevale by Joining Us here! There is no obligation to maintain membership with Blunt Logic. Joining us on the Goblinworks site helps us place in the Land Rush event and establish a settlement together. We will, however, provide chat / forum / voice comm space to citizens of Freevale should they want it.

~~ If you have any questions, ask! ~~

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Stone Bear Clan has officially joined the Multi-Company settlement of Freevale.


Woo! Welcome! Great to have the barbies on board.

Three whole applicants. Wasn't that what "we" needed?

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Yeah, and it will actually be 4 votes since SBC just got another member.


Snap! Score one for alliances between the like-minded!

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@Ravenlute Good to see this.

It would be cool if at some point different styles of buildings would become availabe that you could put down in a settlement. Imagine a Barbarian themed style: large tents made of Bones and Leather, decorated with animal trophees and such. One part of the Settlement could house those buildings, creating the "Barbarian" sector.

I am wondering how Settlements take shape anyhow: we have seen videos of Key buildings being upgraded, but what about the regular housing you see in some videos? I wonder how much freedom the Settlementleadership has in creating the layout and putting down various buildings.

I read that building something is actually a group effort that takes time. Is this also true for regular houses, that seem to be mostly for backdrop(and possibly add to the DI or some?) Or does the settlementleader gets to place more houses, based on increasing membership?

Going on a tangent here. But you get my drift.

Though I am sure that you are still planning to create your own Barb town at some point. Good move.

As soon as GW gets the error sorted out that non-US folks get with their credit card, I will upgrade to EE with one account and throw my second vote in for Freevale(first went to Pax).

Mind you, if Freevale becomes a hive of villanous scum with ultra low reps, that'll backstab anyone in sight for the lullz, I will relocate my tender merchant behind!

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Tyncale wrote:

As soon as GW gets the error sorted out that non-US folks get with their credit card, I will upgrade to EE with one account and throw my second vote in for Freevale(first went to Pax).

Mind you, if Freevale becomes a hive of villanous scum with ultra low reps, that'll backstab anyone in sight for the lullz, I will relocate my tender merchant behind!

Great to hear Tyncale. Settlement membership is really shaping up nicely.

I don't think we need to worry about Freeville becoming a 'hive of villainy' any time soon. None of the participants thus far are pushing that sort of angle. Free and open is the over-riding theme. Plus... barbarians. :]

I don't think we know a lot of details of settlement construction thus far. The idea appears to be that you set a 'work project' and then have to put sufficient raw materials into a holding pen for it. Once that is done the work takes some amount of time and then the building appears / is upgraded. I haven't seen anything about being able to precisely position buildings. I think it is more likely that placement will be automatic.

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There is a lot we don't know regarding settlements that has become painfully obvious over the course of this past week.

From what I understand the mayor or approved officers of the settlement can start a project by laying down a specific building type in one of the designated slots and then folks can jump in and help build that project.

Regular housing has no game use as of yet (no player housing) besides eye candy but when a settlement upgrades and grows that will likely advance along with it.

Despite our chaotic nature and likely in-game penchant for violence, (it is a PvP game after all), we're all pretty much in agreement that we aren't into griefing. Attacking our own would be a bad idea. This whole thing is still fresh and new and we'll see how things play out in-game but I don't imagine you'll have much trouble in our walls.

I still like the idea of the SBC taking on a role of militia for the settlement since they will be so combat oriented.

EDIT: CB beat me to it.

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I tried to find blogs or posts regarding the command structure of a settlement but came up with zilch. There are some good old blogs describing building a settlement though. Keep in mind these blogs are well over a year old and changes have been made.

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Congrats guys!

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